Mac Mini Pro M4 Shutdown variation

[JemTheWire]

Can someone please answer this as it has me puzzled?

If i select Shutdown (not Sleep) from the main Apple menu. The Mac does shut down and the front LED goes off. However, random time later I notice that the Mac has turned back on. However, if i use the power button, the Mac shuts down and stays off.

I have disabled the option in settings to wake the Mac for network activity so I don’t believe that is a cause.

I was under the impression that shut down was to shut down and sleep put the Mac in a ‘frozen state’ ready to wake.

I ask as I have a KeyMaestro macro to SHUTDOWN the Mac at night but find that next morning even though the macro did shut the Mac down, it turned back on. If i use the power button manually, the Mac shuts down and stays off until i hit the power button again.

 

[Che Castro]

I have a m4 pro never seen this problem after shutdown
Stays shutdown

 

[nathan_reilly]

I have this same problem with my M3 max MacBook pro. I bought and returned a 14" one because it did this and then bought a 16" figuring why not get the screen i really wanted. Both do it. It's so annoying. Almost a year of it, and there's some discussion in the forums here or there. Seems like a small minority of us?

At least yours won't run your battery down. On/Off/Sleep no longer mean what they used to for me, and I have no confidence that if I shut my computer off at the end of the day there will be battery when I return in the am. Now I leave it on all the time and plugged in so at least it's ready to use in the am.

I can shut it down, close the lid, come back hours later to find it on, warm, waiting for my login password. Sorry to hijack this but just to illustrate that you are not crazy. I would love for someone to chime in with a real solution.

 

[JemTheWire]

Thank you. At least I know I’m not going mad!

 

[Fishrrman]

OP:

If you want the Mac to STAY powered down through the night, just do what I've done for the last 30+ years...

My Mini and all my nearby peripherals are connected to a surge suppressor/power strip with an on/off switch.

At night, when I know I won't be using it until morning, I shut down the Mini.
Then... I reach down and flip off the power strip.

In the morning, I flip on the power strip and reach back and touch the Mini's power-on button.

Works 100% as intended.
NEVER fails.

Again, don't want the Mini restarting at night?
Take my suggestion, and I GUARANTEE that your problems will be solved.

 

[JemTheWire]

The thought had crossed my mind. In fact, I was thinking of adding a script 'action' in my Shutdown macro in KeyMaestro that sends a command to Home Assistant to switch off one of my smart sockets. That socket being the one that feeds my Mac mini.

Thank you for the 'prod'.

 

[nathan_reilly]

I guess i'll just get out the ol ifixit kit of pentalobe screwdrivers

 

[nathan_reilly]

The thought had crossed my mind. In fact, I was thinking of adding a script 'action' in my Shutdown macro in KeyMaestro that sends a command to Home Assistant to switch off one of my smart sockets. That socket being the one that feeds my Mac mini.

Thank you for the 'prod'.

is there a way to delay it like 2 mins after your computer shuts down? i like it!

 

[JemTheWire]

I am not sure TBH. Obviously you cannot send the command to turn of the smart plug after the Mac has shutdown so perhaps a delay could be programmed at the Home Assistant end. Say after the shutdown notification, pause X seconds then send the switch off command to the relevant smart socket.

It is something I am not too sure about. But I am sure CoPilot can assist, lol.