My goodness. How do you get through life being so negative? There's a song, "Accentuate the Positive," that you should probably listen to in the morning. You right well may be a happier person in the end.
svenr said:
jenniff said:
Where did you get that value? Backup is not sold separately, there's no price for it. And besides, it's very limited and doesn't work very well.
I'm getting that value from the Apple Sales Training Online (ASTO), in their .mac sales unit. It compared it to Retrospect Backup, which they said retailed for $49.99. I just look on
Amazon, and it was $92.99 on sale. Oh well.
If you don't think it works very well, then I'm sorry. I had lots of customers be very pleased with its performance.
svenr said:
jenniff said:
Virex sells for $28.88
http://gizmos2go.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=1299
And, anyway, who here has ever had a virus under OS X?
Again, I got it from ASTO. It's called a sales pitch, my friend. I've never gotten a virus. If people were intelligent, PC users would never have viruses either. Unfortunately, some people manage to get viruses (viri, whatever), and they need virus protection. OS X is actually more susceptible to getting viri than OS 9, because
svenr said:
jenniff said:
100 MB of online storage (varying values, depending on where you look)
No scripting, no databases, no FTP access. Useful only for amateurs.
Yea, no offense to him, but he sounded like an amateur. Something told me that he wasn't a pro web developer. Besides, not everyone has an abundance of time to spend on things. Not everyone has their life revolve around their computer. Sometimes you want something short, simple, and sweet.
svenr said:
jenniff said:
An email address with 15 MB of storage
Others give you several addresses with 1 GB of storage for free!
First of all, Gmail isn't available for everyone right now. Second of all, I don't like Gmail as much as .mac mail. I like the integration with Mail of .mac mail. Why would I need 1GB of storage anyway? Why don't I just download it on my computer?
Cripes, that's not even the main selling point of dotmac. The point is that you get an
address@mac.com, ad-free, and you get it with all this other stuff. It's a package. The individual elements by themselves are not worth it necessarily, but all together it is, MAINLY the two software pieces: backup and virex.
svenr said:
Yeah, iPhoto integration is nice, although others offer the similar functions for free.
Yea, integration is nice, and that's why you buy it. If you want something free that doesn't integrate, then go for it. I like integration. I will pay money for integration.
svenr said:
Who needs a magazine for $20 when you can get all the Macintosh info you could possibly want more up-to-date on the net ... free? Other "stuff" is mostly discounts on things you wouldn't have bought if they were offered at the discounted price in the first place, like silly children games.
The point is this: They give away things from time to time. I got a free versiontracker plus account through them. I get free shareware from time to time. I got StickyBrain for free through it. They give you discounts on books and magazines. This is merely one example of discounts and free stuff. Perhaps eventually, you will find something of value through it as well, and you will be happy with it.
svenr said:
jenniff said:
Other stuff that you can learn by going to
www.mac.com
Like... ??
Go there and look, my goodness. In the day and age where we have this plethora of information at our fingertips, and I'm typing out what you can right well learn yourself by going to a website. I'm already typing out way more than I should. You should already know it all anyway, since you have a dotmac account.
svenr said:
jenniff said:
So, for $69.95, it's a pretty stellar deal. You get $100 worth of software ...
No, you don't.
Then go yell at Apple if you don't think so. Having sold Apple products in the past, and having taken their
sales training courses online, these are the things that Apple told us to tell people in order to sell dotmac.
svenr said:
Now, after all that ranting, guess what ... me too! I also use mine daily. So what made me keep it? It's really nothing but the email. I got a really nice address back in the days when it was "iTools" and just couldn't get myself to let go of it. Apple hooked me in best bait-and-switch manner. But everytime renewing comes around, I'm debating with myself if it's worth it, because with the other "stuff" I've been underwhelmed.
Well, good for you. I'm glad you pay money every year for something that you can't stand that much. That really shows your devotion to Apple. Truthfully, I would be upset too if all I used my dotmac account was for the email. That's a lot of money for email. But, I use all of the features, and it's a great value
for the package.
