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I have been really curious about Copland, and I've been wanting to try it out. I might do so the next free time I get.
I just wanted to know if anyone else on here has ran it, and on what? It technically pre-dates OS 8, and the only Pre-G3 PowerPC I have doesn't work. The one that does is a 68k mac, and it can't run anything north of 7.5.5 anyways.

So, anybody know if Copland will run on a G3? I have two Beige G3s, as well as a Wallstreet PowerBook that works. Aside from those I don't think I have anything that can run it lol. And emulators suck.
 
wiki says the following:

Hardware requirements​

According to the documentation included in the Developer Release, Copland supports the following hardware configurations:[41]

  • NuBus-based Macintoshes: 6100/60, 6100/60AV (no AV functions), 6100/66, 6100/66 AV (no AV functions), 6100/66 DOS (no DOS functions), 7100/66, 7100/66 AV (no AV functions), 7100/80, 7100/80 AV (no AV functions), 8100/80/ 8100/100/ 8100/100 AV (no AV functions), 8100/110
  • NuBus-based Performas: 6110CD, 6112CD, 6115CD, 6117CD, 6118CD
  • PCI-based Macintoshes: 7200/70, 7200/90, 7500/100, 8500/120, 9500/120, 9500/132
  • Drives formatted with Drive Setup (other initialization software may work; if the user has trouble, he or she can try reinitializing with Drive Setup 1.0.4 or later).
  • For builds up to and including DR1, the installer is set to ensure the user has System 7.5 or later on a hard disk 250MB or greater.
  • Monitors connected to either built-in video or a card set to 256 colors (8-bit) or Thousands (16-bit).
Looking at MacGarden, that seems to be about it. I haven't seen much about tweaking it to run on other hardware but it might be possible. The 9500 seems to be as recent as it gets.

You might have luck in a virtual machine. - QEMU looks like the best bet.
 
wiki says the following:

Hardware requirements​

According to the documentation included in the Developer Release, Copland supports the following hardware configurations:[41]

  • NuBus-based Macintoshes: 6100/60, 6100/60AV (no AV functions), 6100/66, 6100/66 AV (no AV functions), 6100/66 DOS (no DOS functions), 7100/66, 7100/66 AV (no AV functions), 7100/80, 7100/80 AV (no AV functions), 8100/80/ 8100/100/ 8100/100 AV (no AV functions), 8100/110
  • NuBus-based Performas: 6110CD, 6112CD, 6115CD, 6117CD, 6118CD
  • PCI-based Macintoshes: 7200/70, 7200/90, 7500/100, 8500/120, 9500/120, 9500/132
  • Drives formatted with Drive Setup (other initialization software may work; if the user has trouble, he or she can try reinitializing with Drive Setup 1.0.4 or later).
  • For builds up to and including DR1, the installer is set to ensure the user has System 7.5 or later on a hard disk 250MB or greater.
  • Monitors connected to either built-in video or a card set to 256 colors (8-bit) or Thousands (16-bit).
Looking at MacGarden, that seems to be about it. I haven't seen much about tweaking it to run on other hardware but it might be possible. The 9500 seems to be as recent as it gets.

You might have luck in a virtual machine. - QEMU looks like the best bet.
Yeah I might have to use a VM...I sure wish I could get my 7500 to work. I got it to almost boot an 8.6 CD once, but it was only one time. It usually won't output video at all.
 
Yeah I might have to use a VM...I sure wish I could get my 7500 to work. I got it to almost boot an 8.6 CD once, but it was only one time. It usually won't output video at all.
Is that with onboard VRAM? It might have faulty VRAM sticks, funky RAM or the CPU clock multiplier on the card might be set wrong.
 
Think I could run it on a PowerBook 1400? It supports System 7 and OS 8, so I'd think it might work.
It's not one of the listed supported setups but it is around that era. It might be an issue of driver support, though, as I don't see any notebooks in the hardware list.
 
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I couldn't run Copeland if I wanted to - since the TI G4 only supports 9.2.2, but I could use sheepsaver to do it.
 
So how to install Copeland in G4 titanium ?? Sheepshaver ? Where can I find PowerPC version of Sheepshaver to run Copeland ?
 
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I like your Baltimore Colts avatar btw:, so, how do I install this Copeland on my 1 ghz Titanium ? Do i use sheepsaver ?
 
It's on winworld in the Copland section but only builds D7E1 and D11E4 are actually Copland.
I see, I just ran a beta of OS 8, or what was left of Copland when they scrapped most of it.

Seems we need a disk image prepared by the Drive Setup from one of those builds, these versions of Drive Setup don't seem to work under SheepShaver.

So who has a real Mac that can run this version of Drive Setup and create a disk image we can install Copland too?
 
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