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modicharlie2003

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dear members;
i am new here
pls advice me
i have macbook pro early 2011(i5- 8gb) 320gb hdd- mac still have 2 years apple-care left expire on feb 2014 , I want to keep my hdd at original place & i want to add any SSD (256gb m4-crucial or any brand)to run OS + all applications replace with optical slot(dvd drive),
I heard in this forum that if i replace ssd to optical drive place then some of members having problem due to Hibernate (many members i heard having problems due to SATA 2/ SATA 3(6gb) ) i am very confused now ,pls advice me .

thanks
charlie
 
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You shouldn't run into any issues with putting the SSD into the optical bay. Just make sure that you set "Put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible" to off. I think this is the issue you are referring to...?
 
dear members;
i am new here
pls advice me
i have macbook pro early 2011(i5- 8gb) 320gb hdd- mac still have 2 years apple-care left expire on feb 2014 , I want to keep my hdd at original place & i want to add any SSD (256gb m4-crucial or any brand)to run OS + all applications replace with optical slot(dvd drive),
I heard in this forum that if i replace ssd to optical drive place then some of members having problem due to Hibernate (many members i heard having problems due to SATA 2/ SATA 3(6gb) ) i am very confused now ,pls advice me .

thanks
charlie

Bad idea.
The primary bay is a SATA III connection with a 6GB/s connection. The optical drive is limited to 1.5 GB/s. If you want to optibay and use a SSD keep the SSD in the main bay where it won't be affected by the slow link speeds. The HDD should go in the optical drive.
 
Bad idea.
The primary bay is a SATA III connection with a 6GB/s connection. The optical drive is limited to 1.5 GB/s. If you want to optibay and use a SSD keep the SSD in the main bay where it won't be affected by the slow link speeds. The HDD should go in the optical drive.

Is this true? I thought everyone was getting SATA III speeds out of the optibay?
 
I done this upgrade to my MBP this weekend. I'd also recommend you put the HDD in the optibay and place the SSD in the old HDD space to utilise the faster SATA connection. Installation of the optibay is easy enough, though I ran into a ton of problems installing Lion on the SSD (mainly due to Lion Internet Recovery not working). You can read my post here if you run into similar problems.
 
Bad idea.
The primary bay is a SATA III connection with a 6GB/s connection. The optical drive is limited to 1.5 GB/s. If you want to optibay and use a SSD keep the SSD in the main bay where it won't be affected by the slow link speeds. The HDD should go in the optical drive.

This is true for the 15 and 17, but I think virtually all, if not all the 2011 13" models have 6Gbps optical bays.

If you want to check, go to System Profiler, and look at the Link Speed (not Negotiated Link Speed) in the Serial ATA section for the optical drive.

I done this upgrade to my MBP this weekend. I'd also recommend you put the HDD in the optibay and place the SSD in the old HDD space to utilise the faster SATA connection. Installation of the optibay is easy enough, though I ran into a ton of problems installing Lion on the SSD (mainly due to Lion Internet Recovery not working). You can read my post here if you run into similar problems.

Note that the optibay doesn't have Sudden Motion Sensor support.

Just like to correct my previous post, the hibernation issue is where RAM contents isn't saved to the disk during hibernation (when the battery is completely drained), and the sleep issue appears to be with optibay drives continuing to spin on sleep. So you may experience issues. Having the boot drive in the original bay seems to be the more sensible idea. Apologies for the confusion!
 
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This is true for the 15 and 17, but I think virtually all, if not all the 2011 13" models have 6Gbps optical bays.

If you want to check, go to System Profiler, and look at the Link Speed (not Negotiated Link Speed) in the Serial ATA section for the optical drive.



Note that the optibay doesn't have Sudden Motion Sensor support.

Just like to correct my previous post, the hibernation issue is where RAM contents isn't saved to the disk during hibernation (when the battery is completely drained), and the sleep issue appears to be with optibay drives continuing to spin on sleep. So you may experience issues. Having the boot drive in the original bay seems to be the more sensible idea. Apologies for the confusion!



i check on system profiler i have macbook pro early 2011 model



Intel 6 Series Chipset:

Vendor: Intel
Product: 6 Series Chipset
Link Speed: 3 Gigabit
Negotiated Link Speed: 1.5 Gigabit
Description: AHCI Version 1.30 Supported

MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898:

Model: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898
Revision: HE13
Serial Number: UL21 5103VZ
Native Command Queuing: No
Detachable Drive: No
Power Off: Yes
Async Notification: No



means i have 6Gbps optical bays- so can i put ssd on optibay or not ? its make more complecated if i put ssd on optibay.
 
You have SATAII in that bay. Link speed is 3 Gbps, that means SATAII. You're much better off moving the hard drive into that bay and putting the SSD where the hard drive was.
 
What does Negotiated Link Speed means? Both "Link Speed" on my early '11 MBP are 6 Gigabit.

Does this means I will have the same speed if I put my SSD in optibay instead of where the HDD is?

cheers
 
What does Negotiated Link Speed means? Both "Link Speed" on my early '11 MBP are 6 Gigabit.

Does this means I will have the same speed if I put my SSD in optibay instead of where the HDD is?

cheers

Yes, you should be able to achieve sataiii speeds with either location.
 
What does Negotiated Link Speed means? Both "Link Speed" on my early '11 MBP are 6 Gigabit.

Does this means I will have the same speed if I put my SSD in optibay instead of where the HDD is?

cheers

Negotiated link speed mean that the controller can transfer at faster speeds but due to restrictions (that cannot be removed) the speed is reduced. You WILL notice slower ssd speeds if you put it in the optical bay.
Put it in the main bay.
 
Negotiated link speed mean that the controller can transfer at faster speeds but due to restrictions (that cannot be removed) the speed is reduced. You WILL notice slower ssd speeds if you put it in the optical bay.
Put it in the main bay.

will do.. thanks for the info.. :)
 
I am actually planning to put a SSD into the optibay in my early 2011 15" model. I already have a 128GB SSD in the other slot, and what I really like about having the SSD is the silent work mode and the shock resistance. Is it possible to have 2 SSDs in the computer? Which 128GB SSD would you recommend? thank you!
 
I am actually planning to put a SSD into the optibay in my early 2011 15" model. I already have a 128GB SSD in the other slot, and what I really like about having the SSD is the silent work mode and the shock resistance. Is it possible to have 2 SSDs in the computer? Which 128GB SSD would you recommend? thank you!

It would be possible. Just don't spend money on a sata III ssd. Get a sata II drive. They are cheaper and you could probably get a large capacity at lower price.
 
I put my SATA3 SSD in the optibay after reading that the 13" Early 2011 MBP all had a 6Gbps link in both connections.

Turns out mine doesn't :(
 
It would be possible. Just don't spend money on a sata III ssd. Get a sata II drive. They are cheaper and you could probably get a large capacity at lower price.

Yet it's getting to the point where not many SATAII SSDs are on the market; not any new ones anyway. Though in theory SATAII drives should be cheaper, they're getting phased out. Check prices on everything before you buy.
 
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