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frittino

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Hello everyone,
I'm new in the forum. I've decided to switch from PC to Mac and I've
decided to start with the new MacBook.
In the buyers guide I read:

Recommendation: Buy only if you need it - Approaching the end of a cycle

What does it mean?
Is it better to wait cause an upgrade is in progress?

Thanks for your help.
cheers
 
It's a guessimate based on how long the current model has been out for compared to how often on average new models come out.

Basically, it's saying 'don't be surprised if these machines are refreshed soon - if you're thinking of buying one, it might be an idea to hold fire, but if you need it now, then get it now.'
 
well I can wait, but I can't figure out if this mean the update will be released in a couple of months ... or it's someting like 7-8 month

thanks
 
well I can wait, but I can't figure out if this mean the update will be released in a couple of months ... or it's someting like 7-8 month

thanks

Well, the estimation is based on previous updates, so there's no guarantee it's going to happen with the same frequency.... I would expect to see new ones within the next couples months, but no guarantees!
 
What it means is, if you can wait, then wait till you hear news that an update happened. Also, there is no guarantee that the update will happen before you situation changes from "I can wait" to "I can't wait". If your doing a transition, then waiting for SL sounds reasonable IMO.
 
A lot of times they do updates right after the beginning of the "back to school" season. So in August and into September they will have discounts and give ipod with the purchase of a new mac then afterwards they'll update there models for the Christmas season. Just what has seemed to happen for the last couple of years.
 
We are probably looking at an update around June to coincide with Snow Leopard. I think a lot of it depends on what Intel push in terms of processors etc..............
 
The next MacBook update will probably just be a minor processor update and maybe Snow Leopard. I doubt Apple will drastically change the design considering the fact that this is only revB.
 
The next revision with Snow Leopard will be a good one. I'd wait until
we see all the Apple news from WWDC in early June.
 
We are probably looking at an update around June to coincide with Snow Leopard. I think a lot of it depends on what Intel push in terms of processors etc..............
Which would be a regular speed bump.

I think some of the other components will be upgraded quite a bit.

Also the new rumor on the front page says Nehalem notebooks in November.
 
so I guess it's better to wait ? I don't want to buy something that after three months become old and I need to pay an additional 50-100$ for a new OS

Exactly, if your able to wait, then buy right when the update occurs. People often do this.
 
so I guess it's better to wait ? I don't want to buy something that after three months become old and I need to pay an additional 50-100$ for a new OS

Well, define "old". It either does what you want or it doesn't, and if it does then it isn't "old" in my eyes.

Having said that, I would totally wait if I had no need to buy right now, not so much because of big changes to the hardware that might or might not happen soon (and will very likely be minor, related to small processor speed increases), but because we know for sure that an updated operating system is going to appear in a few months (for varying values of 'few').

I had one of the first generation core duo macbooks released and wanted a macbook pro for what felt like ages last year and held on until the late year refresh, and I'm glad I did because the unibody macs are a work of art in my eyes.

I see a lot of advice to wait on here at times, and which its good advice that is well intended, you need to know what you're supposed to be waiting for, and what difference it's going to make to you in order to make a proper decision.
 
if you need a computer within 3 months, buy now. If you are able to wait 6 months, then don't buy.

If it's not for work, and money is a problem, look at the refurb store. Or consider trying to get a university discount (available to uni students and staff).

Always buy Applecare if it's a laptop. Applecare can be bought on eBay for cheaper, but beware of the usual scammers.
 
Always buy Applecare if it's a laptop. Applecare can be bought on eBay for cheaper, but beware of the usual scammers.

I'd like to buy a laptop, probably a Macbook. Why it's important to buy Applecare? It sounds a bit expensive. Is it really useful?
I will use most of my time the MacBook at home.
 
I'd like to buy a laptop, probably a Macbook. Why it's important to buy Applecare? It sounds a bit expensive. Is it really useful?
I will use most of my time the MacBook at home.

Yes. Desktops are quite sturdy, but laptops are delicate little creatures, full of moving parts squashed together into tiny little spaces. Things go wrong with them. Bits fall off.

Applecare is a 2 year extension of your one year warranty. I usually never buy extended warranties - they're a rip-off, but applecare is usually worth it, especially if you can get one off eBay.

It's rare for a 3 year old desktop to be needing repairs, and most desktop parts are easily replaceable, but by the time your laptop is getting on 3 years old, bits will be failing, and laptop repairs are usually specialist only and horribly expensive.
 
Yes. Desktops are quite sturdy, but laptops are delicate little creatures, full of moving parts squashed together into tiny little spaces. Things go wrong with them. Bits fall off.

Applecare is a 2 year extension of your one year warranty. I usually never buy extended warranties - they're a rip-off, but applecare is usually worth it, especially if you can get one off eBay.

It's rare for a 3 year old desktop to be needing repairs, and most desktop parts are easily replaceable, but by the time your laptop is getting on 3 years old, bits will be failing, and laptop repairs are usually specialist only and horribly expensive.

Other then the fan and harddrive, the MacBook does NOT have much in the way of moving parts. Unfortunately, even in its an aluminum enclosure, the parts are small and easy to break if dropped.

Most laptop issues are with HDD crashes and people dropping them (or getting stolen, which is not covered anyway). A SSD is a lot more dependable then a HDD. However, I am on the fence about applecare. I plan on buying a refurb MacBook soon, and $250 is a lot of dough, since most computers either fail right away or last a few good years. If the comp doesn't fail in the first year, then it is likely to last 3 years.

I guess it depends on how much computing you do on the go. My old POS Acer laptop is 4 years old, but it is so big and heavy, it has mostly been a desktop machine. It has had no real serious issues, but the battery blows at this point and a blue line appears and disappears on the screen sometimes. I hate moving it around cuz the battery will shift out of place and the whole thing shuts off or the blue line appears and I have to keep fiddling with the hinge in order to get it disappear again.
 
Other then the fan and harddrive, the MacBook does NOT have much in the way of moving parts. Unfortunately, even in its an aluminum enclosure, the parts are small and easy to break if dropped.

You missed quite a lot. Hinges. Trackpad (not a moving part per-se, but the coating can come off). Trackpad clicky button. Keyboard. Power button. All the individual keys.

On a desktop, replacing the keyboard or mouse is a 5 second, $10 job. On a macbook with no warranty... replacing the keyboard or trackpad... hmmm hope you just got paid - could cost $200 or more.

Problems could come just from crumbs jamming keys or the click button, or liquid spills.
However, I am on the fence about applecare. I plan on buying a refurb MacBook soon, and $250 is a lot of dough
eBay. (with usual warnings)
most computers either fail right away or last a few good years. If the comp doesn't fail in the first year, then it is likely to last 3 years.
Desktops last. The expensive bits (monitor, CPU etc) are either up in the air or well hidden away. Most other bits (mouse etc) are easily replaceable. In extremis, I can replace a desktop motherboard for £40 labour plus the £40 cost of a new mobo.

Laptops don't. They suffer more wear and tear from daily use. People here have been quoted $1000 for replacement logic boards (apple mobos). Laptops have power lead and USB stuff (external mouse, drives, keyboard, etc) plugged in and unplugged almost every day. (desktops less often) It's more wear on the ports on the mobo.

Also laptop mobos have greater thermal stress, as there's less cooling and stuff is packed more tightly than on a desktop mobo. They get flexed when people pick up the laptop by the corner (as does the LCD too). All that just adds up to a shorter life.
My old POS Acer laptop is 4 years old, but it is so big and heavy, it has mostly been a desktop machine. It has had no real serious issues, but the battery blows at this point and a blue line appears and disappears on the screen sometimes. I hate moving it around cuz the battery will shift out of place and the whole thing shuts off or the blue line appears
As you say, your laptop was mostly used on desktop only, but you've got battery problems, LCD problems, and hinge problems. Some of that probably started showing up before the end of the 3rd year.
I have to keep fiddling with the hinge in order to get it disappear again.
How did you forget the hinge in your list of moving parts above, when you're having hinge problems yourself? A lot of important cables go through the hinge (LCD, Wifi, webcam, etc) so hinge problems can create a lot of knock-on problems.

Hope I've made my point.
 
Its the stupid stuff that applecare will do for you. My power button starting sinking in, it didn't cause any problems with the computer but a year and a half after my purchase and I got my top of the lower shell replaced no questions asked. Not the greatest example but most people that I know who have it have used it and in most cases it ends up paying for itself, even if it doesn't, its comforting to know that this computer works for 3 years guaranteed and if it doesn't I get new stuff from apple.
 
I decided NOT to get Applecare for my MB. At around the $1100 I paid for it,
Its just not worth nearly a 25% premium to buy it. I'll take the risk and use the $250 towards my next laptop.
And it you think about it I'm better off by $500. My current unit was cheaper and I get a "discount" on my next one.

Now if I had bought a $2000+ MBP, I would definitely buy it.
 
Sorry but it will be free the upgrade to Snow Leopard or existing customers must pay for it?

You must pay for every new OS X major revision unless you buy a new machine after its release and get it for "free." But the in between updates are free.
 
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