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Hello guys! I heard that Apple made available the beta for the next update of High Sierra.
Does it compare to "stable" release? Or not?
 
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Hello guys! I heard that Apple made available the beta for the next update of High Sierra.
Does it compare to "stable" release? Or not?
No discernible difference here, compared to the public (“stable”) release, aside from the fact that Siri now has the same natural voice as in iOS 11.

10.13.1 beta (17B25c) is rock solid on my systems (MacPro5,1 and MacBookPro11,3) but your mileage may vary depending on your apps and add-ons, some of which may be on the cusp of compatibility. As always, just make sure you have redundant, reliable back-ups before your proceed with the installation.

All my HDD volumes, internal and external, are now APFS volumes except for Time Machine drives. Time Machine itself will not accept any APFS volume for backup. It looks like not even Apple is comfortable enough with the new format.
 
All my HDD volumes, internal and external, are now APFS volumes except for Time Machine drives. Time Machine itself will not accept any APFS volume for backup. It looks like not even Apple is comfortable enough with the new format.

Doubtful thats the problem. I think they are plenty confident. Time Machine creates an incredibly complex directory structure. It likely will take more time to get it working or it doesnt make sense for some reason to change the file system for that purpose.
 
10.13.1 is faster for me AND it fixes the annoying bug that freezes safari with certain input source.

The only thing my computer crash every time it wakes up. For now, I'm shutting it down completely every time
 
10.13.1 is faster for me AND it fixes the annoying bug that freezes safari with certain input source.

The only thing my computer crash every time it wakes up. For now, I'm shutting it down completely every time
Good sound to hear. I hope next official release all problems about safari and Telex input source completely sloved.
 
Doubtful thats the problem. I think they are plenty confident. Time Machine creates an incredibly complex directory structure. It likely will take more time to get it working or it doesnt make sense for some reason to change the file system for that purpose.

APFS doesn't support hard links to directories yet, which Time Machine uses.
 
All my HDD volumes, internal and external, are now APFS volumes except for Time Machine drives. Time Machine itself will not accept any APFS volume for backup. It looks like not even Apple is comfortable enough with the new format.

I also have the internal SATA drives on my Mac Pro converted to APFS and they seem to run better than ever. When I click on a drive that hasn't been used for hours it responds instantly with no delay.

When they were HFS+ there would often be a wake up period of a couple seconds with noise, followed by another delay with occasional spinning ball while all the contents appeared. This was most noticeable when saving files to a drive that had gone to sleep, following a period of inactivity. There is a lot of talk about APFS only being intended for SSD, but for me it's working fine with the old SATA drives.
 
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I also have the internal SATA drives on my Mac Pro converted to APFS and they seem to run better than ever. When I click on a drive that hasn't been used for hours it responds instantly with no delay.

When they were HFS+ there would often be a wake up period of a couple seconds with noise, followed by another delay with occasional spinning ball while all the contents appeared. This was most noticeable when saving files to a drive that had gone to sleep, following a period of inactivity. There is a lot of talk about APFS only being intended for SSD, but for me it's working fine with the old SATA drives.

That probably just means your drives don't enter sleep.
 
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In system preferences I have them set to sleep when possible and there are two drives that often go a day or more without being accessed, so it seems unlikely they would be awake the whole time, unless that is a bug in High Sierra. The computer is set to sleep after 10 minutes.
 
Performance on my MacBook Pro 15 2015 is somewhat better than Sierra but not a huge amount, certain animations are much smoother but the beta is a beta so at times I get random lag spikes but overall it's a pretty snappy experience on my hardware.
 
10.3.1 beta is faster on my 2011 mini than 10.3. But I don't use Safari so can't give any input on that.
 
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