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*I worked with ChatGPT on tracking this issue and then writing up a report based on it. So it sounds AI because it helped a lot.


I wanted to sanity-check something I’ve been tracking for a couple of weeks now, because at this point I’m pretty sure I’m seeing a real behavioral change in macOS Tahoe rather than a one-off bug. What I am seeing is Tahoe fundamentally does not tolerate long-lived, browser-heavy, always-on workflows at 32 GB anymore.

Machine:
M1 Max MacBook Pro
32 GB RAM
2 TB SSD

OS:
Tahoe 26.x (currently 26.2 — which is better than 26.0, but not a full fix)

Workload (important context):
This is a very browser-centric, long-uptime machine. Safari is effectively my workspace. Typical day includes:
• Multiple Google Docs
• Google Drive
• HubSpot (several tabs)
• X / Facebook / occasional YouTube
• AI web apps (ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok, Claude)
• Mail, Messages, Numbers, Music
• Signal, Slack, WhatsApp in the background

Nothing exotic, but a lot of long-lived tabs that never really go idle.



What I started noticing

After moving to Tahoe, the machine just felt “thicker” over time. Not immediately after boot, but after a day or two:
• UI responsiveness degraded
• Window switching felt heavier
• Typing latency crept in
• Reboots restored things temporarily

Activity Monitor showed:
• WindowServer frequently sitting at 40–50% CPU
• WindowServer memory growing into the 3–3.5 GB range
• Memory pressure still “green,” but compressed memory climbing fast
• Swap starting to engage even with 32 GB RAM

This wasn’t happening to me in the same way on pre-Tahoe macOS with the same usage pattern.



Experiment: reduce transparency & motion

On advice I’d seen elsewhere, I turned on:
• Reduce Transparency
• Reduce Motion

Then I tracked Activity Monitor over time instead of just spot-checking.

Immediate effect (post-reboot):
• WindowServer CPU dropped roughly in half
• Compressed memory much lower (3–4 GB range)
• Swap at 0
• System felt genuinely snappier

So far, so good.



What happened over time (this is the interesting part)

~11 hours uptime:
• Compression climbed, but stayed under ~9 GB
• Swap still 0
• WindowServer elevated but not pegged
• System felt usable

~1.5 days:
• Compression back in the ~12–13 GB range
• Swap still mostly avoided
• WindowServer ~30% CPU
• Heavier, but not collapsing

~3–4 days:
• Compression plateaued around 10–12 GB
• Small amounts of swap (single-digit MBs)
• WindowServer memory back near ~3 GB
• Still stable, but clearly strained

~7 days uptime (current):
• Swap now ~1.5 GB
• Compression lower (~4–5 GB), but only because pages have moved to disk
• WindowServer still ~30–40% CPU
• This is where latency becomes unavoidable again until reboot

At this point it’s clear that:
• The UI tweaks delay the problem
• They do not change the long-term steady state
• Tahoe eventually converges to compression → swap under this workload, even on 32 GB



My takeaway so far

This doesn’t feel like a classic memory leak. It feels like a policy/architecture shift in Tahoe:
• WindowServer holds onto more composited state
• WebKit/Safari tabs behave more like resident apps
• macOS favors correctness/isolation over aggressive reclamation
• Compression is leaned on harder, and swap comes sooner over long uptimes

Reducing transparency lowers the multiplier, but not the destination.

The system doesn’t “explode” anymore — but it still degrades predictably over days unless I reboot or close whole classes of tabs.



Why I’m posting

I’m trying to figure out whether this is:
• Just the reality of Tahoe for long-uptime, browser-heavy workflows
• Something specific to M1 Max / 32 GB
• Or something others are also seeing but chalking up to “Safari is heavy”

If you’re on Tahoe and:
• Run long uptimes
• Use Safari or Chromium browsers as a primary workspace
• Have noticed WindowServer CPU/memory creeping over time

…I’d really like to hear what you’re seeing:
• How much RAM?
• How long before swap shows up?
• Does rebooting “fix” it temporarily for you too?

Not looking to argue or blame Apple — just trying to understand whether this is the new normal or something still rough around the edges.
 
Not looking to argue or blame Apple — just trying to understand whether this is the new normal or something still rough around the edges.

I'd absolutely be looking to blame Apple - this better not be the new friggin' normal. :mad:

Hopefully it's just a mistake, or something going on with your install. My Mac is rebooted generally only if there's a software update. This would be terrible if true. It'll be interesting to see what others say (I'm still running Sequoia).
 
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I'd absolutely be looking to blame Apple - this better not be the new friggin' normal. :mad:

Hopefully it's just a mistake, or something going on with your install. My Mac is rebooted generally only if there's a software update. This would be terrible if true. It'll be interesting to see what others say (I'm still running Sequoia).
My machine is pretty clean. I would be very surprised if that was the case.
 
Hi,

I suggest that you should update all of your apps you use. Then restart. 32 GB RAM is some kind of overkill for this workload.

Some screenshots from activity monitor would be helpful and / or a check from EtreCheck. But honestly I think it's about a huge CPU load.
 
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Hi,

I suggest that you should update all of your apps you use. Then restart. 32 GB RAM is some kind of overkill for this workload.

Some screenshots from activity monitor would be helpful and / or a check from EtreCheck. But honestly I think it's about a huge CPU load.
Ok I should say I’m a former Mac tech with 6 years as the lead at a Genius Bar and have been consulting since I was 13. Apps are up to date. I watch the machine like a hawk. I have about 25/30 apps open at any given moment. Why do you think 32gb is overkill?
 
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Honestly, I've never had any problems using swap. That's what it's there for. Usually, it was just the CPU that was struggling.

I don't know what the cause is in your case. I'm guessing it's some kind of extension or something similar. I would try safe mode and check what the CPU usage in Activity Monitor shows.
 
I found something:

Old thread I know, but for those looking for a Mac slowdown issue, I noticed WindowServer was taking a ton of CPU and slowing my M1 mac down a lot. I disabled Grammarly desktop and it immediately fixed my issue. I've had Grammarly for a long time, so something must have changed recently, but I'm deleting it from my computer now. Grammarly for Safari seems fine.

Source:

And I also suggest to delete or move any extensions to desktop or another folder. And perhaps sending feedback to Apple.

I can try to reproduce this on my Air, but this will take a few days.

Or this one:

Might something to do with the track pad.

 
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I don’t really use much in the way of extensions but not a bad idea to rebuild just in case. Hassle. But there ain’t anything else in my system that’s running like a grammarly.
 
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I don’t really use much in the way of extensions but not a bad idea to rebuild just in case. Hassle. But there ain’t anything else in my system that’s running like a grammarly.
Hi.

Sounds good 👍 😊 hope you found the faulty extension or whatever it is.

If not then we've encountered a serious bug in macOS and we must wait for an update. I remember in German Mac forum called MacTechNews that in 2019 MacBook Pro machines there was also some kind of problem with macOS process WindowServer. I'll keep on reading.

Please write an answer when you found a solution to this issue. Thanks! 🙏
 
A small addition from me:

macOS Tahoe seems to be much more aggressive at compressing inactive memory than any previous version. El Capitan was quite sluggish back then, while later versions caught up a bit. macOS Tahoe seems to take this much more seriously. No big deal. Everything runs wonderfully fast on my MacBook Air with 16 GB of RAM. Furthermore, neither my cousin nor I have ever experienced any problems with "too little RAM," whether with 1, 2, 4, 6, 8, or 16 GB of RAM. Most of the time the CPU was struggling, but otherwise everything always ran quickly enough.
 
For the users of this board. My dock and my activity monitor in macOS Tahoe.
 

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I use an external 5k Retina display and I noticed that my memory is now always at 13 GB out of 16 GB and swap typically has like 3 GB.
 
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Hi.

Sounds good 👍 😊 hope you found the faulty extension or whatever it is.

If not then we've encountered a serious bug in macOS and we must wait for an update. I remember in German Mac forum called MacTechNews that in 2019 MacBook Pro machines there was also some kind of problem with macOS process WindowServer. I'll keep on reading.

Please write an answer when you found a solution to this issue. Thanks! 🙏
I genuinely think I’m hitting a limit and that Tahoe manages memory and resources in a different way than Sequoia
 
I use an external 5k Retina display and I noticed that my memory is now always at 13 GB out of 16 GB and swap typically has like 3 GB.

And what are you complaining about? That your physical RAM is actually used?

WindowServer has had memory leaks since Big Sur I think. Obviously, Apple doesn’t seem to think this need fixing. The best cure is to restart occasionally.

This might be true, I don't never watched this because I only watched if the system works smoothly. Never watched senseless numers, just performance.
 
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And what are you complaining about? That your physical RAM is actually used?



This might be true, I don't never watched this because I only watched if the system works smoothly. Never watched senseless numers, just performance.
Ok dude. You gotta stop weighing in here if you’re referring to swap and memory compression ratios as “senseless numbers”.
 
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Ok dude. You gotta stop weighing in here if you’re referring to swap and memory compression ratios as “senseless numbers”.
Eh no. What are you truly complaining about? That your physical RAM in your machine is really used or want you that your RAM is never really used at all? I really don't understand that.

Right now, nearly of my physical 16 GB RAM is used and all the memory pressure is green.
 
Eh no. What are you truly complaining about? That your physical RAM in your machine is really used or want you that your RAM is never really used at all? I really don't understand that.

Right now, nearly of my physical 16 GB RAM is used and all the memory pressure is green.
It's in the thesis of the post: What I am seeing is Tahoe fundamentally does not tolerate long-lived, browser-heavy, always-on workflows at 32 GB anymore. Sequoia did without batting an eye. For me and what I use my Mac for its a big deal.
 
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It's in the thesis of the post: What I am seeing is Tahoe fundamentally does not tolerate long-lived, browser-heavy, always-on workflows at 32 GB anymore. Sequoia did without batting an eye. For me and what I use my Mac for its a big deal.
I think you're completely wrong about that. Everything happens incredibly fast here.

Should I re-post screenshots about this?
 
Are these enough apps?

I remember that using a 2009 MacBook Pro in 2009 that running 4 GB RAM was just enough for 14 applications at once.
 

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