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MacTheRipper alternatives?

7on

7on

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Is there any freeware alternatives to MacTheRipper? I have 2.6.6 but I hear the Universal version will be shareware. The PPC version is rather slow under Rosetta and I was just curious about deCSS alternatives.

Thanks.
 
Version 3.x is much better, but you need to do some digging to find it - and it is a univeral binary. Handbrake does NOT remove the region encoding.
 
vgoklani said:
Version 3.x is much better, but you need to do some digging to find it - and it is a univeral binary. Handbrake does NOT remove the region encoding.
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By digging to you mean donate to the site to download it? Or by digging do you mean look on a torrent site?
 
Here's a link to Handbrake 0.7.1.
(Click the link then click "download")

According to the website, Handbrake 0.7.1 is a Universal Binary. I don't know how someone could get 3.x, but that must be one damn good app.

:)

Thanks for starting this thread, as I was also looking for a MacTheRipper alternative... this very second.
 
again, handbrake doesn't rip DVDs, it just converts the format...as for mactheripper, verion 3 will not be free(!), the author has been fairly adamant about that....
 
vgoklani said:
again, handbrake doesn't rip DVDs, it just converts the format...as for mactheripper, verion 3 will not be free(!), the author has been fairly adamant about that....
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My copy of Handbrake definitely rips DVDs. Of course it converts the format in the process, but it's not like you have to start with a pre-decrypted ripped VIDEO_TS folder.
 
I have Handbrake 0.7.1, and all I have to do is pop the disk in, do a few things in handbrake, and boom, i've got one quicktime file of the entire movie from beginning to end in DVD quality.

I think that's considered "ripping".
 
I want to rip straight video_TS then I can use my Popcorn 2 software to compress and burn. Popcorn doesn't handle .movs
 
macgeek2005 said:
I think that's considered "ripping".
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I would consider that converting. Why because it is no longer the same format... it has been converted to another format, usually more lossy than the original. Ripping purly removes the copy protection and region restrictions so you are free to use the DVD according to your fair use rights. So no, handbrake is not an alternative to mactheripper.
 
7on said:
Is there any freeware alternatives to MacTheRipper? I have 2.6.6 but I hear the Universal version will be shareware. The PPC version is rather slow under Rosetta and I was just curious about deCSS alternatives.

Thanks.
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It's not slow because of Rosetta. It's slow because of the drive. ;)

I remember another Intel user running MacTheRipper using a 16x external firewire DVD and getting nearly identical ripping times under native PowerPC and Rosetta.
 
Eidorian said:
It's not slow because of Rosetta. It's slow because of the drive. ;)

I remember another Intel user running MacTheRipper using a 16x external firewire DVD and getting nearly identical ripping times under native PowerPC and Rosetta.
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Really? It felt slower than my G4 Tibook at ripping. But actual tests versus my "feelings" is kinda moot.
 
7on said:
Really? It felt slower than my G4 Tibook at ripping. But actual tests versus my "feelings" is kinda moot.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=+mac...ient=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

http://www.macworld.com/forums/ubbt...=393926&page=8&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

On my MacBookPro 2.0Ghz, it takes about 30 minutes to rip a DVD using MacTheRipper. It's marginally faster than my 800 Mhz G4 (which takes 35 min), but I find that the biggest speed difference has nothing to do with the processor or the memory (although I wouldn't try it on a G3), but rather the DVD drive it's hooked up to. (I used a external FW DVD drive)

MTR does run through Rosetta, but the speed diff wasn't noticable for me -- a few minutes faster on Intel than on 800 Mhz G4.
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MTR works at a reasonable speed on Intel-based new machines... primarily because ripping requires very limited processing, it's mostly about reading and writing.

Overall speed of ripping a DVD is a function of several things of which processor performance is only one. Main factors that affect the observed speed include the ability of DVD reader to extract the information and the speed with which the hard drive can store this information (slower bus speed of older machines can make things a little worse even with a newer faster DVD and hard drive).

Perhaps the slow speed of ripping you are observing is more of a function of your DVD-player/writer and has little to do with the MTR or anything else. In my case, using a 2GHz MacBook, the internal Superdrive (or whatever they are calling it now) takes twice as long to rip a DVD as using an external FW Pioneer 110... all else being identical, about 24 min using internal DVD drive versus about 11 min using the external drive for a 4.2GB disk.
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Rocksaurus said:
Drag the video_TS folder from the DVD to your hard drive?
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That doesn't work. The whole point of "ripper" apps is to let you copy the files to your hard drive.
 
Rocksaurus said:
Drag the video_TS folder from the DVD to your hard drive?
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You have to rip them first to get past the Macrovision or CSS encryption/protection. You rip them using MacTheRipper and then Popcorn can handle them just fine.
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
So I'm not ripping my CDs when I'm importing them into iTunes just because I use aac and not aiff...? :confused:
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No, you are ripping and then converting them. As 7on stated, he wants the VIDEO_TS folder, which contain VOB files. If you don't end up with that then the format has been changed, thus it is not only ripping them but converting them as well.

Although handbrake does rip the dvd before converting it, since it requires you to encode the video it should not be called a "ripper" as it does not perform all the functionality of a ripper (i.e. giving you a decrypted region free VIDEO_TS folder containing VOBs with the same exact video quality).
 
Wikipedia said:
Ripping is the process of copying the audio or video data from one media form, such as Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) or Compact Disc (CD), to a hard disk. While the original media is typically digital, the extraction of analog media such as VHS video or vinyl records to a digital format can also be referred to as "ripping". To conserve storage space, the copied data is often then encoded in a compressed format such as MP3, WMA or Ogg Vorbis for audio, or MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, Xvid or Ogg Theora for video.
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I think it's safe to use the term ripping for the whole process... ;)
 
I know it's not freeware (I use Handbrake for all my ripping needs as well), but I just saw this new app on MacUpdate today called Hawkeye (developer's home page) that is able to rip and author DVD's and seems to have quite a nice feature set. I can't actually try it out, because for some reason I can't mount commercial DVD's (there are a lot of people with eMacs having the same, or related, problem. Fortunately, Handbrake doesn't require the disk to be mounted, so it works for me. But Handbrake doesn't seem to be what you're looking for...), but maybe Hawkeye could do the job for you? I'm not actually even sure if it is able to rip copy-protected DVD's (although I think it can), I just thought it looked interesting, and had many of the features you seem to be looking for...
 
I have a question similar to the subject

I rip my dvds with mac the ripper, but i can only play them threw the dvd player. how do i put them on a dvd?? and do other stuff with them??

I totally do not have a clue what I'm doing
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
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I think it's safe to use the term ripping for the whole process... ;)
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The key word there is "then." By the use of the word "then" it is saying that after it has been ripped it is then usually encoded (which isn't actually correct, as it's already encoded, it is being re-encoded, but I won't get into all the inaccuracies that wikipedia contains). Also I have never ever heard Analog to Digital conversion refered to as "ripping." Digitizing, yes. Ripping, no.
 
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