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Madam Secretary Episode 12, season 4 "Sound and Fury", why is this so familiar, like I've heard it all before?

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We watched it last night. Interesting episode. We were hoping for more development on the kids this season after spending the first few seasons focusing on Stevie, who's now got a slick job and a bright future.
 
I've been watching but have not watched Sunday's episode yet. As @Zenithal noted, Stevie seems to be the only one of the kids that's seeing much character development. To be fair, the middle child is in college so I wouldn't expect to see much of her.
 
I've been watching but have not watched Sunday's episode yet. As @Zenithal noted, Stevie seems to be the only one of the kids that's seeing much character development. To be fair, the middle child is in college so I wouldn't expect to see much of her.
To be fair as well, Alison, better known as pancake to Henry, wasn't ever a focal point. Except for those few episodes last season when she was deciding on what college to attend. Apart from Stevie, Jason is the only one who gets more decent on screen time. Whether he's rebelling or expounding on his government views. There has been decent character development since season one. I think we'll be seeing more of him in season 5 given his strong interest in politics and possibly landing a pre-college internship.
 
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Madam Secretary Episode 12, season 4 "Sound and Fury", why is this so familiar, like I've heard it all before?

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I wonder if that's the name that was given to the episode long ago or something that was done (or modified) recently. Almost like it's just a little too "on the nose".
 
I wonder if that's the name that was given to the episode long ago or something that was done (or modified) recently. Almost like it's just a little too "on the nose".
Typically, studios will film episodes long in advance of the airing season. Though the 25th Amendment has been a theme in shows in the past.
 
Typically, studios will film episodes long in advance of the airing season. Though the 25th Amendment has been a theme in shows in the past.
Sure, some times long in advance, and sometimes not as long. However, it wasn't so much the content itself (although even that is quite relevant beyond even the 25th Amendment part), but the particular episode title in relation to a very recent book that came out.
 
Sure, some times long in advance, and sometimes not as long. However, it wasn't so much the content itself (although even that is quite relevant beyond even the 25th Amendment part), but the particular episode title in relation to a very recent book that came out.
Google date search says the title was published on December 10th, with a press release a week later for the episode. The title to Wolf's book was revealed in late November, but it didn't gain traction until the new year. "Minefield" aired on December 10th when a press release for it came out on the 22nd or 23rd of November. The episode itself was probably filmed in September or October.

Neither "Sound and Fury" or "Fire and Fury" are remotely original. They're a play on words of an old play, IIRC. The phrase "Fire and Fury" has been used several times in the last year if not longer when describing uncivilized countries, such as North Korea.
 
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Google date search says the title was published on December 10th, with a press release a week later for the episode. The title to Wolf's book was revealed in late November, but it didn't gain traction until the new year. "Minefield" aired on December 10th when a press release for it came out on the 22nd or 23rd of November. The episode itself was probably filmed in September or October.

Neither "Sound and Fury" or "Fire and Fury" are remotely original. They're a play on words of an old play, IIRC. The phrase "Fire and Fury" has been used several times in the last year if not longer when describing uncivilized countries, such as North Korea.
Thanks for the additional info that I was wondering about.

The phrase is definitely not new or anything like that, but the application to presidential instability certainly has its own twist to it.
 
Thanks for the additional info that I was wondering about.

The phrase is definitely not new or anything like that, but the application to presidential instability certainly has its own twist to it.
To be fair, and not to get too political, but instability was known as of a few years ago. Makes for solid late night comedy shows, though.
 
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