Maybe my dumbest idea ever...

[mzs.112000]

Would it be possible to use a modern SATA 3 SSD I'm a G5 Mac, by using an adapter?

I know that people use IDE to SATA adapters to connect modern optical drives.

I'm thinking, convert SATA 1 host to IDE/PATA, *then* use a IDE/PATA host to SATA 3 adapter. Connect the SSD through those adapters.

Now, the PATA bus is only 133MB/s and SATA 1 is 150MB/s, but even then, using the adapters, that should only lose about 17MB/s. Sure it's a lot, but it will still end up being faster than a 5400RPM HDD.

To recap, my idea is to convert SATA to IDE, then convert back to SATA, hopefully to get modern SSDs to work.

Would that work, or would it just be stupid?

 

[Jeroen Diederen]

Would it be possible to use a modern SATA 3 SSD I'm a G5 Mac, by using an adapter?

I know that people use IDE to SATA adapters to connect modern optical drives.

I'm thinking, convert SATA 1 host to IDE/PATA, *then* use a IDE/PATA host to SATA 3 adapter. Connect the SSD through those adapters.

Now, the PATA bus is only 133MB/s and SATA 1 is 150MB/s, but even then, using the adapters, that should only lose about 17MB/s. Sure it's a lot, but it will still end up being faster than a 5400RPM HDD.

To recap, my idea is to convert SATA to IDE, then convert back to SATA, hopefully to get modern SSDs to work.

Would that work, or would it just be stupid?

Why don't you use NewerTech AdaptaDrive?

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I recently mounted a Samsung 850 EVO 500 Gb SSD onto the NewerTech AdaptaDrive and mounted this thing in an iMac G5 iSight. It works perfectly!

 

[mzs.112000]

Why don't you use NewerTech AdaptaDrive?

NewerTech AdaptaDrive 2.5 to 3.5-inch Drive Converter

Fits all 3.5-inch SATA drive bays, including desktops, enclosures, or backplane trays as found in the Mac Pro. Fully SATA 3.0 Revision (6Gb/s) compliant.

eshop.macsales.com

FAQLoad - Fit any 2.5" inch SSD drive in any 3.5" inch drive bay or drive tray

faqload.com

I recently mounted a Samsung 850 EVO 500 Gb SSD onto the NewerTech AdaptaDrive and mounted this thing in an iMac G5 iSight. It works perfectly!

I've heard that the G5 computers only support SATA 1 and some SATA 2 drives...
People have had issues because modern hard drives and SSDs use the SATA 3(6.0Gb/s) standard, and aren't recognized by the PowerMac G5.

IIRC that's why Druaga1 had problems putting an SSD in his G5 PowerMac

 

[Jeroen Diederen]

It works in my iMac G5...

 

[z970]

I've heard that the G5 computers only support SATA 1 and some SATA 2 drives...
People have had issues because modern hard drives and SSDs use the SATA 3(6.0Gb/s) standard, and aren't recognized by the PowerMac G5.

IIRC that's why Druaga1 had problems putting an SSD in his G5 PowerMac

I've put several SATA III drives in my G5, all bought new from the store a couple of years ago.

They all work fine. Just make sure to jumper them to cable select.

 

[Bug-Creator]

I've heard that the G5 computers only support SATA 1 and some SATA 2 drives...

Wasn't it the other way round, as in some SATA2 drives not working while SATA3 are o.k. ?

Didn't bother with any trays when I added a new SSD to my iSight....

 

[tigerintank]

I didn't know it was possible to jumper SSDs.

I don't remember seeing anything physical on the ones I've had / still have - mainly Samsung, INtel, Creative

 

[G4fanboy]

SATA drives do not make Master/Slave/Cable select as the ATA ones. AFAIK.

But some SATA II/III have a jumper to make´em SATA I compliant.

 

[AphoticD]

My G5s have been happy with this config:
- mSATA SSD (sub AU$40 for 128GB)
- 2.5" mSATA to SATA adapter (AU$9)
- in a steel 2.5" to 3.5" adapter (AU$3)

No jumper settings, just screw the parts together and install.

You'll probably find m.2 SSDs for cheaper, but I haven't tried this in my PowerPCs yet.

 

[Traace]

SATA drives do not make Master/Slave/Cable select as the ATA ones. AFAIK.

But some SATA II/III have a jumper to make´em SATA I compliant.

100% + different vendors have different pinouts for this feature.

And Hitachi is not using jumpers at all, they do it via low-level dos software called "hitachi feature tool" .

There are also drives that can auto-negotiate the speed and are therefore compatible, too. Samsung EVO SSDs are known for supporting it.