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naesy1

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Jun 21, 2011
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I just got a new 2011 MBP from my college. It seems to run a lot snappier and faster than my 2008, which has a faster processor and better graphics card. They are both running lion with 4 gigs of ram. Is this to be expected with a more recent model? Or is it just because of the amount of apps and stuff on my 2008? By snappier, I mean start up is super quick and apps launch a lot faster. Apps also don't hang as often as on my 2008. Do you think a clean install on my 2008 will make it more comparable? Thanks.
 
Every Notebook Apple released this year will crush any Notebook Apple released in 2008 in terms of CPU power. Also there are a lot of other things to consider. The Ram is also a lot faster, the bus speeds are also a lot faster and the HDD is also faster do to it being new and probably bigger and 7200 RPM.

All this aside, I don't think a new install will make your system faster if you're going to restore it from a time machine backup afterwards. Maybe there's something working in the background that is eating up a lot of resources.

One way to compare the two would be to do a time machine backup of your old system and restore the new one from it and then see if the hangups persist.
 
I just got a new 2011 MBP from my college. It seems to run a lot snappier and faster than my 2008, which has a faster processor and better graphics card. They are both running lion with 4 gigs of ram. Is this to be expected with a more recent model? Or is it just because of the amount of apps and stuff on my 2008? By snappier, I mean start up is super quick and apps launch a lot faster. Apps also don't hang as often as on my 2008. Do you think a clean install on my 2008 will make it more comparable? Thanks.

its most like the i5 processor.... I had a macbook 2010 edition with core 2 duo and 8gbs or ram.......so i got a macbook pro with 4gb of ram and i5 it topped it unceremoniously.... then i put 8gb of ram in it and its flawless. rarely get the spinning rainbows now.


so in short its the i5 processor.
 
wait how can you say that the 2008 is more powerful?

in terms of CPU and GPU architecture alone, anything from this generation will wipe the floor with the 2008 generation.
 
Just because the "numbers" are "bigger" on the '08 than the '11, it doesn't mean it's more powerful. The architecture in the chips on the '11 make it much more powerful, despite having lower clock rates.

So, it makes perfect sense that the 11 performs better than the 08.
 
Every Notebook Apple released this year will crush any Notebook Apple released in 2008 in terms of CPU power. Also there are a lot of other things to consider. The Ram is also a lot faster, the bus speeds are also a lot faster and the HDD is also faster do to it being new and probably bigger and 7200 RPM.
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Stock HDD is still 5200; IIRC, the 7200k rpm drive doesn't really provide noticeable increases in speed or performance.

wait how can you say that the 2008 is more powerful?

in terms of CPU and GPU architecture alone, anything from this generation will wipe the floor with the 2008 generation.

He structured the sentence wrong, he ment the 2011 is faster.
 
Stock is 5400rpm, and there should be at least some of a speed difference with a 7200rpm(assuming it's a decent drive).

It really seems that he's saying the 08 has a faster processor and better graphics, if he's saying the 11 is then his post doesn't really make sense.
 
I just got a new 2011 MBP from my college. It seems to run a lot snappier and faster than my 2008, which has a faster processor and better graphics card. They are both running lion with 4 gigs of ram. Is this to be expected with a more recent model? Or is it just because of the amount of apps and stuff on my 2008? By snappier, I mean start up is super quick and apps launch a lot faster. Apps also don't hang as often as on my 2008. Do you think a clean install on my 2008 will make it more comparable? Thanks.

I believe you dont understand what CPU is and what it does.

Your 2008 model is not more powerful nor does it have a better graphics card.
 
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A list of all the CPUs and how fast they actually are not only their Mhz numbers.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

Current 15"
is 2820QM 2.3Ghz, 2720QM 2.2Ghz, 2630QM 2.0Ghz
13"
2620M 2,7Ghz, 2410M 2,4Ghz

Old 2008
P8600 2.4Ghz
offered P8700 2,53 Ghz
P9600 2.66Ghz
later models up to a P9700 2.8Ghz

Actually The MacBook Air 1.7 Ghz CPU (2637M) is faster or at least as fast as any of the old 2008 CPUs depending on workload a little.
 
2008 Model: Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile
2011 Model: Intel Core i7 Quad Mobile

See the difference?

Start up speed and snappiest is determined by hard drive speed, not CPU. ( unless you have some bloated installation sucking your Ram and CPU, but that's a whole other issue )
 
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Adamantoise said:
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why people say Apple customers are stupid ...

To true
 
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