MBP nTB 13'' 2016 vs 2017?

[MBX]

Anyone know how the specs are between 2016 vs 2017 of the non touch bar 13'' MBP?

Is the 2017 much faster? How does it compare in terms of new Iris graphics and new CPU vs the 2016? Do you think it's a big jump?

 

[prism]

Anyone know how the specs are between 2016 vs 2017 of the non touch bar 13'' MBP?

Is the 2017 much faster? How does it compare in terms of new Iris graphics and new CPU vs the 2016? Do you think it's a big jump?

The ssd r/w speeds are significantly faster, the rest is just incremental so not sure how that translates in real life.

 

[Pangalactic]

EDIT: post completely wrong, see later discussion

not sure how that translates in real life.

the SSD is not the bottleneck, so even if they increased its speed 10 times it wouldn't have that much of an effect.
As for the rest:

Iris Plus 650 will probably be on par with a dedicated GeForce 930M and can handle smooth gameplay in modern titles in low up to medium settings.

(https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Plus-Graphics-650.190370.0.html)

The processor is also slightly faster, and they bumped up the 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory (from 1666MHz on the low end model, if I remember correctly).

So overall my guess is around 10-15% increase in performance.

 

[prism]

the SSD is not the bottleneck, so even if they increased its speed 10 times it wouldn't have that much of an effect.
As for the rest:

(https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Plus-Graphics-650.190370.0.html)

The processor is also slightly faster, and they bumped up the 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory (from 1666MHz on the low end model, if I remember correctly).

So overall my guess is around 10-15% increase in performance.

Actually, its Iris Plus 640, not 650 and the improvement is incremental as seen in the notebookcheck comparison:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Plus-Graphics-640.190371.0.html

The faster ram could make a difference but again, the entry 8gb size will be a major bottleneck!

 

[NathanD]

The processor is also slightly faster, and they bumped up the 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory (from 1666MHz on the low end model, if I remember correctly).

It was 1886 MHz on the nTB 2016 model, and now it's 2133 MHz. I don't think there's so much difference though.

 

[Pangalactic]

Actually, its Iris Plus 640, not 650 and the improvement is incremental as seen in the notebookcheck comparison

Oh yes, my bad, I was looking at the tb model, hoping that Apple in a sudden fit of sanity would stick the most powerful graphics in their most PRO 13 inch model with no gimmicks

Well, then I guess it's around 5-7%, MAYBE more battery life and some little perks from Kaby lake.

 

[Jamalogo10]

Actually, its Iris Plus 640, not 650 and the improvement is incremental as seen in the notebookcheck comparison:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Plus-Graphics-640.190371.0.html

The faster ram could make a difference but again, the entry 8gb size will be a major bottleneck!

Would ram enable slightly better performance for gaming? I've got a 17 nTB with 16gb of ram. Could I play most games on low-medium settings? I've also got an i7 512ssd if that means anything.

I got 1/3 off through tax exemptions or the penalties that would have been incurred through a college fund hence the logic behind me maxing out a nTB.