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The AI models high memory usage seems to raise prices across the board.

Even old 4x 64GB 256GB DDR4 ECC LRDIMM RAM PC4 2666MHz kits for the iMac Pro. This summer it was €269, now €599.

A fully loaded Mac Pro will cost a fortune to upgrade to 1.5 TB memory.
This summer I saw 12x 128GB 1.5TB DDR4 ECC LRDIMM RAM 2933MHz kit for €3.250, today the same kit is €5.550

The two kits I mention here is on ebay. Same seller, same kit, sharply raised prices.

I keep track of European prices, as I live within the EU. Thus avoiding the added 25% tax on import.
 
Went back to a couple builds I just did over this last year and ram prices have more than doubled. Absolutely insane.
 
I just looked at memory.net, same thing and crazy.

I was going to upgrade my two but had other home related expenses to deal with (batteries for solar power storage).

I can make do with what I have so that’s no problem.
 
It is wild. Like an echo from the early 2000s

As far as I can tell, the memory price hike has not hit the Mac Pro 2019 models for sale.
Will this be the lowest price range, before it stops going down, or even go back up a bit?
I guess time will tell.

It will also be very interesting to see if Apple will adjust memory prices on new models.
Aftermarket SSD kits for Mac Studio has increased, because the NAND chips are more expensive.
But Apple always charged a fixed price per size step, for several years. Despite market prices going lower.
So Apple should stick with the established memory price, and eat the added cost. Right? 😆
 
It is wild. Like an echo from the early 2000s

As far as I can tell, the memory price hike has not hit the Mac Pro 2019 models for sale.
Will this be the lowest price range, before it stops going down, or even go back up a bit?
I guess time will tell.

It will also be very interesting to see if Apple will adjust memory prices on new models.
Aftermarket SSD kits for Mac Studio has increased, because the NAND chips are more expensive.
But Apple always charged a fixed price per size step, for several years. Despite market prices going lower.
So Apple should stick with the established memory price, and eat the added cost. Right? 😆
Reminds me of what happen with video cards/GPU prices earlier until this year sometime after finally going back to mostly normal.
 
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Well, the rumours now are that nvidia rtx 50xx series super cards will be cancelled, because of global memory shortage
Yep your right.

It may become a ripple effect with any hardware or devices that need memory to work. :( Which is sadly most.
 
Keep wondering what else will go up so high in price now because of ram.
 
Well, the rumours now are that nvidia rtx 50xx series super cards will be cancelled, because of global memory shortage

Sad - not at your posting that but that everything is just skyrocketing in price!

It may become a ripple effect with any hardware or devices that need memory to work. Which is sadly most.

$25,000 Mac Studios and laptops on the way?
 
Sad - not at your posting that but that everything is just skyrocketing in price!



$25,000 Mac Studios and laptops on the way?

Would never happen. Even if it did that would just be the highest end ones.
 
Are hard drives going up in price as well? has anyone compared the data? I heard they are making less hard drives now and that there are backorders up to 2 years apparently due to data centers ordering a metric ton of them
 
Are hard drives going up in price as well? has anyone compared the data? I heard they are making less hard drives now and that there are backorders up to 2 years apparently due to data centers ordering a metric ton of them

Not sure about making less drives but i read that the ssd demand is going up due to data centers.
 
It is wild. Like an echo from the early 2000s

As far as I can tell, the memory price hike has not hit the Mac Pro 2019 models for sale.
I haven't been in the desktop memory market for well over a decade now, but it's kind of normal for prices to go down for particular modules as they get older — and then spike like crazy due to scarcity.

It looks like they're phasing out DDR4… well more or less now… so I guess that scarcity thing hasn't hit prices yet, but once they do, chips for 2019 Mac Pros will cost even more, I expect.
 
The AI models high memory usage seems to raise prices across the board.

Even old 4x 64GB 256GB DDR4 ECC LRDIMM RAM PC4 2666MHz kits for the iMac Pro. This summer it was €269, now €599.

A fully loaded Mac Pro will cost a fortune to upgrade to 1.5 TB memory.
This summer I saw 12x 128GB 1.5TB DDR4 ECC LRDIMM RAM 2933MHz kit for €3.250, today the same kit is €5.550

The two kits I mention here is on ebay. Same seller, same kit, sharply raised prices.

I keep track of European prices, as I live within the EU. Thus avoiding the added 25% tax on import.
Without trying to get specific about memory costs, any major government just talking about tariffs causes wise manufacturers to stockpile essential scarce componentry. Stockpiling exacerbates scarcity and increases prices.

The more blathering about tariffs the worse it becomes. Trade wars may commence. Enough blathering by a sufficiently influential government entity may actually initiate recession, which may again lower prices [after a lot of financial pain].

Note that actual implementation of tariffs is not necessary. Just talk alone will cause stockpiling and increase scarcity.
 
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If you want to monitor prices, keep a browser window on https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

So I have a couple SSDs up, 4TB and 8TB WD SN850X. This is at work, and I just refresh it when I feel to see the changes. Of course there has been some regular bouncing around.

So the 4TB a week ago was just under $300 and sometimes down to $274. I actually ordered it from WD store on Amazon at that price. It didn't get shipped after a week, I said screw it and cancelled it.

I decided to get the 8TB version. While being previously at $600 or slightly above it is now at $630

So instead of waiting for the glorious Black Friday deals, I pulled the trigger on the 8TB from MicroCenter. It was on sale for $599 and I got the Wells-Fargo card to get $30 off and get deals and offers. I'll pay that off this month. For me, with a local MicroCenter (Houston), it makes sense.

I also ordered a couple refurb Seagate Exos 28TB drives for my Synology NAS (918+ 4bay) at 349 each. The Synology has storage pool 1 with 2 24 TB Exos (last month's upgrade) and storage pool 2 with 2 14 TB Exos at 80% capacity. Yesterday I swapped out one 14 for a 28 and am now rebuilding. Initial time predicted was 1 day, 20 hours. Yes, I got the stupid not approved drive message and ignored it. I didn't need those drives now, could have probably waited until next year, but decided not to because of where I see the market going.

The other thing I want to do, is RAID some Server SATA SSDs. I would like some faster Time Machine backups, but I don't need NVME. I was reading about someone who did this over on Ars Technica and he chose Micron 5100 Pro 1.92 GB drives. So I have that bookmarked on ServerSupply


That is more long term. As in lets monitor prices and hope for the AI meltdown. For now, when I finish pulling both WD Red 14TBs from the Synology, I'll use them in my OCW Mercury Dual, and pull the 2 10 TBs out of it and put one in the wifes PC.

Otherwise I started taking apart some old 160, 250 and other sub 1TB drives for the magnets.
 
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And more good news. This was already kind of known.

Phison CEO confirms NAND prices have more than doubled and will continue to rise, all 2026 production already sold out — SSDs facing pricing apocalypse throughout 2027​


The same 1 TB TLC chip that cost $4.80 in July of this year now costs $10.70.


 
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