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MrTemple

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(Edited to include the Horipad Ultimate)

I've bought and tried the SteelSeries Nimbus, the Horipad Ultimate, and the MadCatz CTRLi.

The MadCatz gamepad arrived first, and I used it for a week solid. It is a fine controller, few if any complaints. But since receiving the Nimbus, I hadn't touched the MadCatz, except to verify that I prefer the Nimbus. I sent the MadCatz back.

When the Horipad Ultimate came out, I ordered it, and played with it for a while. I quite liked it, but it didn't work for me (felt too small in my largish hands), so I sent it back.

Here are the objective differences I see, then below my own subjective opinions.


Objective Differences
  1. Mad Catz CTRLi
    • Has a clip to attach your iPhone
    • Uses AA batteries (included, but BYO rechargables)
    • Left thumbstick is above the D-pad
    • Bluetooth 3.0 (theoretically worse latency than 4.0)
  2. Steelseries Nimbus
    • 40h battery life
    • Rechargable via lightning (not included)
    • Left thumbstick is below the D-pad
    • Bluetooth 4.0 (theoretically better latency than 3.0)
    • Has iOS companion app for firmware updates
  3. Horipad Ultimate
    • 80h battery life
    • Rechargable via lightning (not included)
    • Left thumbstick is below the D-pad
    • Bluetooth 4.0 (theoretically better latency than 3.0)

Subjective Opinions

  1. The Nimbus looks great in my opinion. Slightly behind is the Horipad (though it's beautiful too). The MadCatz looks junky.
  2. The Horipad feels more solidly built than the Nimbus, which feels way more solidly built than the Mad Catz.
  3. The Horipad feels smaller. I buy L/XL workgloves, and it feels like the thumb controls are too low for my natural grip. Even short use of the Horipad made my hands crampy. Both the Nimbus and Mad Catz fit my hand much better.

For me it was #3 that was the deal-breaker. If the Horipad fit my hand, I'd have returned the Nimbus and ordered a second Horipad Ultimate.

Regarding Size

Revisiting my subjective opinion that the Horipad felt small in my hands...

This review had nice images of both controllers. The shots were close to scale, but I had to change them up a bit.

Here's a gif with the images scaled roughly the same (matched up the wood grain). Of course slight changes in distance to camera, depending on the lens, would affect this image slightly, but they were *very* close to begin with.

Here's a gif with the two now-scaled roughly the same controllers aligned as closely as possible, to compare size and button layout. I lined the controllers up to where they would fit in the palm of my hand.

Looking at the gif of the two aligned, I notice two things:

1. The Horipad has its buttons a little lower down, and closer to the palm of the hand than the Nimbus.

2. The Horipad is a bit smaller in overall volume than the Nimbus.

Both these things line up with my subjective opinion that the Horipad felt smaller in my hand. Each user's grip will vary of course, but the Horipad's buttons are definitely further outboard, which may not feel as comfortable to users with longer thumbs.

This lines up well with my subjective opinion that the controller felt small.
 
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Keep in mind that MFI controllers require that most buttons are analog. So depending on an app, the face buttons a,b,x,y may not register unless you press a bit harder. I hope that it is not a build quality issue. I hate feeling a button click, but not register.
I wish the MOGA Rebel would get an update. I prefer the asymmetric analog sticks and the flip out arm to hold your phone.
 
I really wish the Nimbus had a clipping mechanism for my iPhone. Without it it's unfortunately a less versatile controller.
 
Would you recommend to Horipad Ultimate for those with small-to-medium hands?
 
You only mentioned the Nimbus as having an app to update firmware. Can the firmware on the others also be updated?
 
Maybe. Unless the Horipad actually needed an update, there would be no need for an app. So that may explain why there isn't one in the store.
Outside of bugs found early in a device's lifecycle, controller firmware is rarely updated. So long as people aren't complaining of issues on the Horipad, I would not consider the possible lack of the feature as an issue.
 
Would you recommend to Horipad Ultimate for those with small-to-medium hands?
I'd say it feels a bit bigger than the ps3/4 controllers, and it's a tiny bit more of a stretch for me. It's somewhere between the size of the PS4 and Xbox one controller sizes if you have those as a reference.

It's around the same size as the Steelseries Nimbus even through it looks smaller in standalone pictures. I'll reference the above site again since they have a side-by-side picture in their Steelseries review: https://afterpad.com/steelseries-nimbus-the-afterpad-review/ . I'd have to say that I prefer the feel of a ps4 controller in terms of its size, and you can pair those to the mac really easily if you don't have an iOS or Apple TV that you would also like to pair to. The mac has had a pretty good history of liking PS3/4 wireless controllers since it has the drivers for it built in to the OS. It works really well with things like OpenEmu.
 
Would you recommend to Horipad Ultimate for those with small-to-medium hands?

Edited OP with the following:

Regarding Size

Revisiting my subjective opinion that the Horipad felt small in my hands...

This review had nice images of both controllers. The shots were close to scale, but I had to change them up a bit.

Here's a gif with the images scaled roughly the same (matched up the wood grain). Of course slight changes in distance to camera, depending on the lens, would affect this image slightly, but they were *very* close to begin with.

Here's a gif with the two now-scaled roughly the same controllers aligned as closely as possible, to compare size and button layout. I lined the controllers up to where they would fit in the palm of my hand.

Looking at the gif of the two aligned, I notice two things:

1. The Horipad has its buttons a little lower down, and closer to the palm of the hand than the Nimbus.

2. The Horipad is a bit smaller in overall volume than the Nimbus.

Both these things line up with my subjective opinion that the Horipad felt smaller in my hand. Each user's grip will vary of course, but the Horipad's buttons are definitely further outboard, which may not feel as comfortable to users with longer thumbs.

This lines up well with my subjective opinion that the controller felt small.
 
I just got the horipad the other day, I'm happy with it. To be honest I haven't had a standalone gaming system since the original nintendo so I can't compare the controller at all. lol Now we need more games to make good use of it.
 
I just got the horipad the other day, I'm happy with it. To be honest I haven't had a standalone gaming system since the original nintendo so I can't compare the controller at all. lol Now we need more games to make good use of it.
Are there really ANY games at all that make use of it?
 
Are there really ANY games at all that make use of it?

Modern Combat 5, for me it was unplayable with the siri remote. Although I don't think it's officially supported it works on into the dead which is nice because I hated how it worked with the stock remote. I'm hoping will se more games that make use of it soon. Some sports games would be nice.
 
I own 2 MFI controllers, a micro Mad Catz, and the PXN controller. The PXN controller is hooked up to my atv4.

I prefer the Xbox layout to the PlayStation stick configuration, so that drove my decision vs the other controllers. Between the two, the full size PXN feels much better to use, maybe because it is bigger and more like the Xbox controllers in shape.

Other than some crashing problems with MC5 (which I hope I solved with a delete and reinstall) Modern Combat 5 works much better than the awkward Siri remote controls.

I do wish app developers would hurry up and do universal ports for their iOS games, but I think the requirement to have Siri remote controls mandatory has halted a bunch of these quick ports.
 
My biggest complaint with the latest controllers (ip6 gamevice, horipad ultimate, and Steelseries Nimbus) is the d-pad. If I press straight down on the middle of a d-pad on my 3DS, GameCube PS4, or Wii U controllers, there is enough of a give left over to roll my thumb to press the buttons and get a nice bottoming out feel when it activates a button. This is how I imagine most people play games with a controller. With the MFi controllers, you can still roll a little bit, but all of the tactility is gone. You don't get the feel that the center is supported nearly as much as you do on other controllers. It seems to be a problem I see all the time on 3rd party controllers, but 1st party controllers seem to get it right.
 
Nice writeup! Sadly, this means I have to think (Again) about which controller to get, as I had settled for a C.T.R.L.i. Unfortunately, no stores around me carry them for me to try them out. :(
 
Is there a comprehensive list of games listed here or on a website that are console like? What I mean by that isn't in graphical performance or looks but the way the game actually flows from a standpoint of a beginning and ending with significant staging in between?

I haven't dove too deep into the app store but games like Jetpack Joyride and Mr. Jump are fun and good time wasters but I want a game where there are levels, a story, and an actual ending like a console game if you will.

This will make me buy a controller for the ATV and complete the experience and actually buy some games but I can't seem to find a good place to see games that suit this.
 
Is there a comprehensive list of games listed here or on a website that are console like? What I mean by that isn't in graphical performance or looks but the way the game actually flows from a standpoint of a beginning and ending with significant staging in between?

I haven't dove too deep into the app store but games like Jetpack Joyride and Mr. Jump are fun and good time wasters but I want a game where there are levels, a story, and an actual ending like a console game if you will.

This will make me buy a controller for the ATV and complete the experience and actually buy some games but I can't seem to find a good place to see games that suit this.
https://afterpad.com/appletv/
 
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