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TheSeagull

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Any news on when this is being released? I could probably hold off on purchasing Office 2008 if 2010 was being released next month or something but really anytime later than April would be too long to wait. And before anybody mentions it iWork isn't really an option for me, my establishment uses Windows and I've had some compatibility problems when bringing in files before, even in the proper file format with OpenOffice. Plus with my student discount I can get Office cheaper than iWork.
 
Hmm, not sure if I've heard anything concrete on a release date (if there is such a thing as a "concrete" release date). You can download the beta, though.

There is not a beta of the next version of Office:Mac at this time. If we do a public beta, we'll announce it on Mac Mojo, the MacBU team blog. I think you're referring to the beta of Office 2010 for Windows, which is available now.

We haven't given a concrete release date yet, but we have said that it'll be out in time for your holiday shopping pleasure this year.

Regards,
Nadyne.
 
We haven't given a concrete release date yet, but we have said that it'll be out in time for your holiday shopping pleasure this year.

What are the usual options (discounts) for updating? ...say from 2004 (for me) or 2008 (for others looking in)

I have the Student and Teacher Edition, and will want at least 3 licenses.
 
There is not a beta of the next version of Office:Mac at this time. If we do a public beta, we'll announce it on Mac Mojo, the MacBU team blog. I think you're referring to the beta of Office 2010 for Windows, which is available now.

We haven't given a concrete release date yet, but we have said that it'll be out in time for your holiday shopping pleasure this year.

Regards,
Nadyne.

Hi Nadyne,

I have a couple quick questions/comments about Office 2010.

First off, I really think Word is a great program. I do a lot of scientific writing in grad school and write about 50-60 pages a month of dense research results, proposals and publications; I've tried a lot of other programs but once I figured out the styles drawer and some of the advanced features of word I really like it more than the others.

Things I hope you don't change for 2010
1) For the love of god please do not remove the toolbox, especially the "Current style of selected text" area. The styles drawer would be useless without this feature. I've tried the Windows version and it doesn't display the current style, making it almost unusable for someone like me who relies heavily on styles to make the document look professional and increase readability.

Features request
1) Format pictures, apply to all pictures. I often need to reduce the size of my images to e-mail my documents. The Mac version doesn't have a format pictures all option
2) Higher dpi options for lowering image resolution, the Windows version only has 200 and 90 dpi, 300 and 600 dpi options would be nice
3) Better image handling. After about 10-15 megs of images, the document slows down, or even when I'm just around a high resolution image.
4) Convert endnotes to static text.
- Currently Insert/Endnote puts in text that cannot be converted to static text using any known method

Wish List
1) Latex quality output.
- I think that Word does a pretty decent job of typesetting, but it is no where near as good as Latex. It would be nice if there was a typesetting option that would output a .pdf of your document but rendered with something like LaTeX or at least that type of quality.

Thanks for all the hard work,
Bob
 
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Wish List
1) Latex quality output.
- I think that Word does a pretty decent job of typesetting, but it is no where near as good as Latex. It would be nice if there was a typesetting option that would output a .pdf of your document but rendered with something like LaTeX or at least that type of quality.

Just curious why you wouldn't use LaTeX to begin with?
 
Just curious why you wouldn't use LaTeX to begin with?

There are a few reasons:
1) compatibility. My advisor doesn't use LaTeX and isn't going to anytime soon. Also, many journals use Word to upload. They will take LaTeX but that isn't guaranteed.

2) Image handling. It is easier to drag and drop into Word from KeyNote then output an image file, give it a distinct name and then remember were it is located.

3) The typesetting of Word is pretty good once you set up a good template. It is almost as good as LaTeX

Don't get me wrong, I like LaTeX and the typeset will probably write more in it once I have time to really learning it, but Word does a really good job, it is simple once you learn how Styles work and I never have had a problem since the last update.
 
Hi Nadyne,

I have a couple quick questions/comments about Office 2010.

First off, I really think Word is a great program. I do a lot of scientific writing in grad school and write about 50-60 pages a month of dense research results, proposals and publications; I've tried a lot of other programs but once I figured out the styles drawer and some of the advanced features of word I really like it more than the others.

Things I hope you don't change for 2010
1) For the love of god please do not remove the toolbox, especially the "Current style of selected text" area. The styles drawer would be useless without this feature. I've tried the Windows version and it doesn't display the current style, making it almost unusable for someone like me who relies heavily on styles to make the document look professional and increase readability.

Features request
1) Format pictures, apply to all pictures. I often need to reduce the size of my images to e-mail my documents. The Mac version doesn't have a format pictures all option
2) Higher dpi options for lowering image resolution, the Windows version only has 200 and 90 dpi, 300 and 600 dpi options would be nice
3) Better image handling. After about 10-15 megs of images, the document slows down, or even when I'm just around a high resolution image.
4) Convert endnotes to static text.
- Currently Insert/Endnote puts in text that cannot be converted to static text using any known method

Wish List
1) Latex quality output.
- I think that Word does a pretty decent job of typesetting, but it is no where near as good as Latex. It would be nice if there was a typesetting option that would output a .pdf of your document but rendered with something like LaTeX or at least that type of quality.

Thanks for all the hard work,
Owen

All good points. Better compatiblity and synching with Endnote would be no. 1 for me too, as well as more seamless compatibility with MS Word (I still have a few minor formating issues).

Are you listening Nadyne? (...just ribbing ya). :)
 
First off, I really think Word is a great program. I do a lot of scientific writing in grad school and write about 50-60 pages a month of dense research results, proposals and publications; [/url]

If it makes you feel any better, I do a lot of writing too, and produce lots of documents with my research results. I can't yet comment on what's coming in the next version of Office:Mac, so I'll just say for now that I think you'll like at least some of what you see. :)

If you ever feel like making the drive up to Mountain View, CA, I conduct lots of usability studies (mostly focused on Outlook and PowerPoint) here. You can sign up to participate in studies here. The rest of my team is located in Redmond, WA, and we do lots of usability studies there as well. Those studies are mostly focused on Word, Excel, and Messenger. (In fact, one of my team members in Redmond needs corporate Messenger:Mac users for a study in mid-February.) We do studies elsewhere, but the majority of our studies are conducted at our home offices.

Regards,
Nadyne.
 
Hopefully the 2010 will allow the absurd Elements bar to be turned off (ie made optional like other toolbars).... otherwise i'm liking the Mac 2008 Word after years of Windows Office 2003.

Having the formatting palette off to the right hand side is a good idea since it frees up vertical screen space for the document (good for widescreen laptops) - see above about Elements bar stealing vertical space.... Would be handy to have that palette be able to 'snap' to the side of the document window.

Will it be in Cocoa? That'll allow 'megazoom' ability to autohide the menu bars (http://ianhenderson.org/megazoomer.html)
 
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