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mindquest

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Have an iMac running last version of Mojave with a Samsung SSD for the boot drive formatted with APFS. Going to add a secondary internal Western Digital 2T hard drive to it and wanted to know if I should format it as Extended Journal or APFS?

The article below that I read seems to indicate that I should use Extended journal for the hard drive. If I am copying something from the HD to the SSD (or visa versa) does Mojave do some sort of on the fly conversion of the data to the correct format?



 
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I use zfs for a few 2ndary or external drives. It works great with os x and linux, and there's even a beta for windows. It's where apfs got most of it's ideas from, but apfs is a poor clone. Full data checksums, snapshots, can send your data to another zfs pool quickly, transparent compression too! http://openzfsonosx.org/
 
Yes, I've read from many places that HFS+ is overall a better file system for spindles. Indeed, since I am running a 5 drive SoftRAID5 inside my cMP, I have no choice. SoftRAID still hasn't figured out how to work with APFS, and promising a version 6 which does that for a couple of years already...
One of my data backups is also in RAID5, but I replaced TM with a WD USB3 8TB external using SuperDuper!'s copy newer to update data. While my understanding of APFS said no, I wanted some of the features of APFS. Being able to share space with all the volumes can save a lot of space and make everything a lot easier. Just add or delete APFS volumes as necessary. APFS makes it work like a SoftRAID, where you can change volume sizes at will, but not automatically like APFS. This is a much better system for managing storage, since most of it is done without having to shrink one partition and add another each time your storage needs change. I do seem to remember seeing 30MB/s on the Blackmagic Speed Test from that WD, but I can't remember whether it was on the USB2 or USB3. Who cares, as most of my backups are done overnight. On a second complete backup, I care more about ease of use than speed. My boot drive gets 2800MB/s when I need the speed for the OS. I recommend APFS for data spindles (as well as SSDs) as the best file system for Macs, despite all the honors for HFS+.
 
If the drive is going to have a bootable copy of the OS on it, make it APFS.
If it's just going to be "for data" (NOT a bootable drive), I'd recommend HFS+ (Mac OS extended with journaling enabled).

I've read reports that APFS on a platter-based hard drive can actually slow down overall performance and "over-fragment" the drive...
 
Compatibility
Can I use Apple File System with my existing hard disk drive?

Yes. Apple File System is optimized for Flash/SSD storage, but can also be used with traditional hard disk drives (HDD) and external, direct-attached storage.

 
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