iPhone 11 More proof that Apple no longer gives a crap

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vinegarshots

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https://imgur.com/a/EL73SZx

If you have the right combo of notifications on your notification screen, the bottom notification ends up behind the camera and flashlight button, and those buttons block any interaction with that notification. If you try to drag it up above, it just rubber-bands back down. It's been like this since the release of iOS13.

This is either a pathetic intentional design choice, or a total neglect of a pretty inexcusable bug for 8 months. Either way, this isn't the kind of user experience I signed up for. I'm really starting to run out of patience for this nonsense.:mad:
 
vinegarshots said:
https://imgur.com/a/EL73SZx

If you have the right combo of notifications on your notification screen, the bottom notification ends up behind the camera and flashlight button, and those buttons block any interaction with that notification. If you try to drag it up above, it just rubber-bands back down. It's been like this since the release of iOS13.

This is either a pathetic intentional design choice, or a total neglect of a pretty inexcusable bug for 8 months. Either way, this isn't the kind of user experience I signed up for. I'm really starting to run out of patience for this nonsense.:mad:
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I don't want the camera icon on the lock screen at al...
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
Don’t have that problem on my SE 2020.
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Potentially a notch-screen-only issue. Although, to anyone testing this, note that there are certain combinations of notifications that prevent this from happening. If I add just one more reminder notification to my example, it then lets me pull them all up above the camera and flashlight buttons. It also seems contingent in some manner upon whether or not iOS has collapsed any of the notifications into the "older notifications" area.

Also, having the music widget active on the lock screen with a couple notifications underneath seems to break it pretty often.
 
now i see it said:
It's not that they don't give a crap, it's that the guy coding this part of the OS doesn't know how to fix it. Something was done to break it and now no one can figure out why it happens.
It's not complacency, it's incompetence.
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Or, alternatively. It's a bug, and apple knows about it and will fix it. As Apple past and present knows, it's impossible to catch everything..."you're holding it wrong" is a good example.
 
I7guy said:
Or, alternatively. It's a bug, and apple knows about it and will fix it. As Apple past and present knows, it's impossible to catch everything..."you're holding it wrong" is a good example.
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Well, I sure wish I could at least hold this a different way and get my notifications to work properly.:D

Or maybe they can make a software bumper to bump them up towards the top of the screen....
 
BugeyeSTI said:
I don't want the camera icon on the lock screen at al...
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There use to be a way to disable it by turning off a setting in accessibility. Apple got rid of that feature. Didn’t have any of the shortcuts on my iPhone X 2 years ago.
 
vinegarshots said:
https://imgur.com/a/EL73SZx

If you have the right combo of notifications on your notification screen, the bottom notification ends up behind the camera and flashlight button, and those buttons block any interaction with that notification. If you try to drag it up above, it just rubber-bands back down. It's been like this since the release of iOS13.

This is either a pathetic intentional design choice, or a total neglect of a pretty inexcusable bug for 8 months. Either way, this isn't the kind of user experience I signed up for. I'm really starting to run out of patience for this nonsense.:mad:
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Must be user error. Maybe you are looking at it wrong.
 
Have you contacted Apple?
I mean I don't follow your reasoning that Apple "no longer gives a crap" because you found one specific bug with a specific combination.
 
ian87w said:
Have you contacted Apple?
I mean I don't follow your reasoning that Apple "no longer gives a crap" because you found one specific bug with a specific combination.
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There is no such thing as "contacting Apple." If you file a bug report, no one pays any attention to it, and if you contact support, they only lead you through their troubleshooting script for basic issues, and it usually ends with them telling you to do a backup restore that doesn't fix anything.

I have an unreasonable amount of Apple products in daily use, and between them all, I have a laundry list of daily annoyances. It's not just one specific bug. And it's clearly gotten worse. Don't know why they're dropping the ball like this across their product lines.
 
vinegarshots said:
There is no such thing as "contacting Apple." If you file a bug report, no one pays any attention to it, and if you contact support, they only lead you through their troubleshooting script for basic issues, and it usually ends with them telling you to do a backup restore that doesn't fix anything.

I have an unreasonable amount of Apple products in daily use, and between them all, I have a laundry list of daily annoyances. It's not just one specific bug. And it's clearly gotten worse. Don't know why they're dropping the ball like this across their product lines.
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Well, sorry to hear that. However, contacting Apple is still the best way imo. I mean you claim they paid no attention, probably means they just won't respond to you personally. But bugs are getting fixed on a regular basis.

If Apple products really upsets you, then I fail to understand why are you still using them. I'm an Android + Windows users, and I find them to be great. So hopefully you can transition well so you are less upset/uptight about objects.
 
vinegarshots said:
https://imgur.com/a/EL73SZx

If you have the right combo of notifications on your notification screen, the bottom notification ends up behind the camera and flashlight button, and those buttons block any interaction with that notification. If you try to drag it up above, it just rubber-bands back down. It's been like this since the release of iOS13.

This is either a pathetic intentional design choice, or a total neglect of a pretty inexcusable bug for 8 months. Either way, this isn't the kind of user experience I signed up for. I'm really starting to run out of patience for this nonsense.:mad:
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I am running iOS 13.4.1 on iPhone X and I can't seem to replicate the issue (I do think I understand the issue you are having).

I am still able to interact with my notifications that's behind the flashlight and camera button on the bottom..
 
ian87w said:
If Apple products really upsets you, then I fail to understand why are you still using them. I'm an Android + Windows users, and I find them to be great. So hopefully you can transition well so you are less upset/uptight about objects.
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It upsets me because I prefer the Apple ecosystem, and I used to experience fewer issues than I did with Android and/or with Windows. There is little transitioning to be done, as I am already multiplatform on everything except for phones. I just want it to work.
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erichui84 said:
I am running iOS 13.4.1 on iPhone X and I can't seem to replicate the issue (I do think I understand the issue you are having).

I am still able to interact with my notifications that's behind the flashlight and camera button on the bottom..
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Did you set up your phone to trigger the exact number of notifications from the same apps I set up in the example video? Is the bottom notification behind the camera and flashlight buttons? If you try to pull the notifications up above the camera and flashlight buttons, do they just bounce back down or do they stay above? If anyone tries this example and gets it to actually work, it would be interesting to see some screen recordings to compare.
 
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vinegarshots said:
Did you set up your phone to trigger the exact number of notifications from the same apps I set up in the example video? Is the bottom notification behind the camera and flashlight buttons? If you try to pull the notifications up above the camera and flashlight buttons, do they just bounce back down or do they stay above? If anyone tries this example and gets it to actually work, it would be interesting to see some screen recordings to compare.
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No, I didn't was just using whatever notifications I had on that screen and tested with that, as I wasn't sure that it has to be that exact combo since it wasn't described in the original post.
 
I actually tried and replicate what you have described but I couldn't even get the camera and flashlight button to show up when I drag the notifications up. From the screenshot I can see that my screen seems to have more empty space above the "Notification Centre" text compared to yours. So I have failed to replicate your test case.

https://imgur.com/a/GbLhenL
 
Why are those flashlight & camera icons even there? Never seen that before. I assume it’s a “notch phone” thing(?)
 
mpavilion said:
Why are those flashlight & camera icons even there? Never seen that before. I assume it’s a “notch phone” thing(?)
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I can't remember what it was like when using my iPhone 6S since its been a long time. But what's wrong with those buttons? They are the most useful buttons that I use so many times a day.

I would find it very annoying if they removed the feature.
 
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