Mouse click/release

[tobychur]

I wonder if anyone can help:
Fast-click/release on the Apple-menu, it stays open.
Slow it down, it closes on release.
Question 1: why, when Windows sees no need for this time-dependency?
Question 2: how do I adjust this?
Nb it's a shorter time in Mail, and an even shorter time in Syst Prefs > Show All.

 

[Mal]

It's called sticky menus, and it was introduced in System 7 IIRC. It's just one of those quirks that's different between Mac OS X and Windows, and AFAIK it can't be adjusted. Perhaps it's related to the double-click speed settings? Anyways, I usually just click on the menu normally, navigate to the menu item I need, then click again to select it. Many people are used to holding down the mouse button until they reach the item and then releasing to select it, though, so Apple provides both types of users with their preferred method.

jW

 

[tobychur]

It's called sticky menus, and it was introduced in System 7 IIRC. It's just one of those quirks that's different between Mac OS X and Windows, and AFAIK it can't be adjusted. Perhaps it's related to the double-click speed settings? Anyways, I usually just click on the menu normally, navigate to the menu item I need, then click again to select it. Many people are used to holding down the mouse button until they reach the item and then releasing to select it, though, so Apple provides both types of users with their preferred method.

jW

Thanks.
Windows lets you do 'whatever you want', including 'holding down the mouse button until you reach the item and then releasing to select it', so I wonder what persuaded Apple to do it a worse way? I can't think that Windoze patented it.
The 'nearly-solution' is 'left-click=quick-click' using a macroer such as Keyboard Maestro - but then you can't drag grr!
Any ideas?

 

[Mal]

Thanks.
Windows lets you do 'whatever you want', including 'holding down the mouse button until you reach the item and then releasing to select it', so I wonder what persuaded Apple to do it a worse way? I can't think that Windoze patented it.
The 'nearly-solution' is 'left-click=quick-click' using a macroer such as Keyboard Maestro - but then you can't drag grr!
Any ideas?

I really don't understand what you're saying. You can do exactly what you're describing on the Mac just fine as well. There's no dragging in the menu's anyways, so that kinda... doesn't apply at all.

jW

 

[tobychur]

I really don't understand what you're saying. You can do exactly what you're describing on the Mac just fine as well. There's no dragging in the menu's anyways, so that kinda... doesn't apply at all.

jW

Windoze has no time-dependency, see original post; Windoze lets you release anytime, menu-mode (toggled by the Alt-key if doing it from keboard) stays active until you select, click outside, press Return or Esc. Very nice.
Why can't Apple do this?
Not 'drag a menu'! Drag a window, slider, icon, etc. A synthesised brief click doesnt let you do this.
You can of course configure another mouse button to do it, but that's not very intuitive.
It's an infuriating problem. My lack of speedy-finger means menu-use takes about 3 attempts.
I reckon this'd work: Left click=:
1. Synthesize a brief click.
2. Pause for [time].
3. Emit a sound.
4. Synthesise a mouse-down until [time, or mouse-up].
What utility will do that?

 

[interrobang]

I still don't see the problem here. Are you using a regular mouse, or a Trackpad? Do you have hand or motor control issues? Why is it that you can't do a regular click on the menu?

 

[Mal]

Windoze has no time-dependency, see original post; Windoze lets you release anytime, menu-mode (toggled by the Alt-key if doing it from keboard) stays active until you select, click outside, press Return or Esc. Very nice.
Why can't Apple do this?
Not 'drag a menu'! Drag a window, slider, icon, etc. A synthesised brief click doesnt let you do this.
You can of course configure another mouse button to do it, but that's not very intuitive.
It's an infuriating problem. My lack of speedy-finger means menu-use takes about 3 attempts.
I reckon this'd work: Left click=:
1. Synthesize a brief click.
2. Pause for [time].
3. Emit a sound.
4. Synthesise a mouse-down until [time, or mouse-up].
What utility will do that?

I honestly cannot comprehend what you're asking for. If that's how Windows works, I'm glad I have a Mac (actually, I'm glad anyways, but that's insanely convoluted).

jW