MP 1,1-5,1 MP5,1: BootROM thread | 144.0.0.0.0 is a pre-requisite to disable Hyper-threading

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  1. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    No
     
  2. tsialex, May 13, 2019
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    Apple released 10.14.5 final (18F132) today.

    MP5,1 still has 144.0.0.0.0 with 10.14.5 final:
    Code:
    $IBIOSI$ MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1904121248
    Apple ROM Version
      Model:        MP51
      EFI Version:  144.0.0.0.0
      Date:         Fri Apr 12 12:43:00 2019
      Build Type:   Release
    
    MP6,1 still has 130.0.0.0.0:

    Code:
    $IBIOSI$ MP61.88Z.F000.B00.1904121119
    Copyright (c) 2005-2019 Apple Inc.  All rights reserved.
    Apple ROM Version
      Model:        MP61
      EFI Version:  130.0.0.0.0
      Built by:     root@saumon
      Date:         Fri Apr 12 11:19:25 PDT 2019
      Revision:     130 (B&I)
      ROM Version:  F000_B00
      Build Type:   Official Build, Release
      Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)
    

    What I have to do to upgrade the firmware:


    Remember that Mac Pro 5,1 don't install firmwares automatically with updates like every other supported Mac and all BootROM upgrades are manual.

    If your Mac Pro have a BootROM earlier than MP51.0089.B00, to upgrade to 144.0.0.0.0 you will have to do:

    1. Download the full Mac App Store installer for 10.13.6, open it and then do as the installer says to upgrade to MP51.0089.B00, this needs a Mac EFI GPU. After the firmware upgrade reboot, you can close the installer app.
    2. Download the full Mac App Store installer for Mojave, the most recent one (10.14.5), open it and then do as the installer says to upgrade to 144.0.0.0.0. After the firmware upgrade reboot, you can close the installer app. This firmware upgrade requires a METAL supported GPU.
    If your Mac Pro have a BootROM later than MP51.0089.B00, like 138/139/140.0.0.0.0 and want to upgrade to 144.0.0.0.0 you will have to do:

    • Download the full Mac App Store installer for Mojave, the most recent one (10.14.5), open it and then do as the installer says to upgrade to 144.0.0.0.0. After the firmware upgrade reboot, you can close the installer app. This firmware upgrade requires a METAL supported GPU.


    - If you still have doubts about BootROM upgrade, all questions and the requirements are answered here in detail:



    - Don't use Mojave Patcher to download installers for supported Macs.

    If you need to download a full installer outside the Mac App Store, use installinstallmacos.py
     
  3. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    It hasn't showed up here yet on the normal Software Update mechanism.

    UPDATE: Downloading now. 1312 Hrs.
     
  4. tsialex thread starter macrumors 601

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    MP6,1 still has 130.0.0.0.0 with 10.14.5 final:

    Code:
    $IBIOSI$ MP61.88Z.F000.B00.1904121119
    Copyright (c) 2005-2019 Apple Inc.  All rights reserved.
    Apple ROM Version
      Model:        MP61
      EFI Version:  130.0.0.0.0
      Built by:     root@saumon
      Date:         Fri Apr 12 11:19:25 PDT 2019
      Revision:     130 (B&I)
      ROM Version:  F000_B00
      Build Type:   Official Build, Release
      Compiler:     Apple clang version 3.0 (tags/Apple/clang-211.10.1) (based on LLVM 3.0svn)
    
    --- Post Merged, May 13, 2019 ---
    MP5,1 still has 144.0.0.0.0:
    Code:
    $IBIOSI$ MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1904121248
    Apple ROM Version
      Model:        MP51
      EFI Version:  144.0.0.0.0
      Date:         Fri Apr 12 12:43:00 2019
      Build Type:   Release
    
     
  5. Earl Urley macrumors 6502

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    Hey, I ran the update to 10.14.5 from Software Update/System Preferences.

    My macOS is 10.14.5 build 18F32, but my BootROM is still 141.0.0.0.

    What gives?
     
  6. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    144.0.0.0.0 is proving to be a superior BootROM version on my machine...
    --- Post Merged, May 13, 2019 ---
    You have to download the Full Installer to do the BootROM upgrade.
     
  7. tsialex thread starter macrumors 601

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    You need to take a look on the first post of the thread…
     
  8. MacManu77 macrumors member

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    Thanks for the tip.
    Question: starting from firmware 138.0.0.0.0. I can update to the 144.0.0.0.0 firmware. remaining however with osx 10.13.6. true?
    To do this can I leave the AMD RADEON NITRO 8GB GPU or should I put the amd 5770?
    Thanks.
     
  9. crjackson2134, May 13, 2019
    Last edited: May 13, 2019

    crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    Read >))))) Post #1
     
  10. Earl Urley macrumors 6502

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    Ah, thanks tsialex and crjackson2134.

    Note to everyone: you'll know if the BootROM update is working if you have an optical drive installed and it opens and ejects the drive. Great to know if you don't have a full EFI GPU, as you won't get a boot or progress screen, I have an RX 580 so I didn't see one.

    Full installer up on the App Store at least. And the BootROM install works on my Samsung Pro 970 and kryo PCIe adapter. BTW it's 6.1 GB this time so be prepared for a wait!

    I'm at 144.0.0.0 as I should be, will check on my distributed computing app to see if anything benches faster.
     
  11. MisterAndrew macrumors 65816

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    Awesome. Downloading the 10.14.5 final full installer now! :)
     
  12. tsialex, May 13, 2019
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    All questions about BootROM upgrade and the requirements are answered here in detail and already updated for 10.14.5 and 144.0.0.0.0:

    MP5,1: What you have to do to upgrade to Mojave (BootROM upgrade instructions)


    Don't use Mojave Patcher to download installers for supported Macs.

    If you need to download a full installer outside the Mac App Store, use installinstallmacos.py
     
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  14. tsialex thread starter macrumors 601

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    Don't use Mojave Patcher to download installers for supported Macs.

    If you need to download a full installer outside the Mac App Store, use installinstallmacos.py
     
  15. Spacedust, May 13, 2019
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    Spacedust macrumors 6502a

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    Impossible to update from 141.0.0.0 to 144.0.0.0 with flashed 980Ti. I got that special sound, LED is blinking but it reboots to Windows 8.1 ;-)

    If I remove Windows drive it boots High Sierra normally without update. Tried from HS 10.13.6 without this latest Security Update.

    I will try directly from Mojave.
    --- Post Merged, May 13, 2019 ---
    Doesn’t work under Mojave with flashed HD7870 as well. Probably Mavericks is needed again!
     
  16. edgerider macrumors regular

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    @tsialex can you confirm that the new firmware make the mention :hyperthread actived
    in système profiler?
     
  17. Earl Urley macrumors 6502

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    How so on yours? Faster boot, faster general response?

    So far on my 5,1, BootROM 144.0.0.0 seems to have reduced the time it takes to do a BOINC GPU work unit on my RX 580 from 36 minutes to 28 minutes. That's a 22 percent increase! Or maybe they tweaked the RX 580 drivers?

    However, BootROM 130.0.0.0 on a 6,1 with dual D300s yields no change in any GPU speeds. I guess Apple's not taking any chances and not fixing what ain't broke, since 10.14.4 seemed to address the complaints of many who said they kept getting crashes due to the graphic drivers..
     
  18. Pressure macrumors 68040

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    Just upgraded to 144.0.0.0 with VEGA FE installed.
     
  19. tsialex thread starter macrumors 601

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    Seems a new feature of SystemInformation>HardwareOverview for 10.14.5.

    If Apple is showing this setting now, they probably gonna implement a easy way to disable HyperThreading in the near future. This will be needed to show when HT is activated or not.

    Seems a good idea, HyperThreading is inherently unsafe and some people will prefer a more secure macOS install while others will prefer more performance with the security compromises of HyperThreading.

    Thx @crjackson2134 for confirming this, I'm trying to repair my main disk that Security Update 2019-003 for High Sierra totally hosed.
     
  20. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    Check you PM's
     
  21. PowerMike G5 macrumors 6502

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    Hmm, this is the first time I've had an issue with the BootROM updating successfully. I'm using the Vega FE. Doing the same as every other update before... full installer, hold button till flashes and sound. But this time the screen stays black versus seeing the Apple logo and bar.

    Will download again and try.
     
  22. chrfr macrumors 604

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    It may just be there to better clarify to users when they're using a CPU which doesn't support HT.
     
  23. tsialex thread starter macrumors 601

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    Last firmware update that have an Apple logo + bar is MP51.0089.B00.

    All 1xx.0.0.0.0 firmware updates have a white screen with GPUs with pre-boot configuration support and black screen with anything else.
     
  24. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    MAKE SURE you have the full installer. Apple has been sending the smaller version to many on the USA East Coast the past several updates.

    The script works best for me:
    https://github.com/munki/macadmin-scripts/blob/master/installinstallmacos.py
     
  25. tsialex thread starter macrumors 601

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    Could be too, but a lot of security people have being advocating HT to be disabled for hardened installs.
     
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