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Overall it’s been very good but accommodations are necessary. First it is a heavy watch compared to previous Apple Watches and any standard electronic watches someone may be used to. However that is not an issue for me as I have been wearing, prior to my Apple Watches, a Rolex Sea Dweller for 40 years. It is a divers watch, though I do no diving, with a helium escape valve. It’s one of the largest and heaviest mechanical watches out there. I was initially self-conscious of it but that passed eventually. So the size and weight of an Ultra will gradually fade from day to day notice. But like the Rolex the weight of my Ultra, along with the trail loop band that it came with, will cause it to slide down my wrist bumping into the knob end of my ulna at my wrist. The Rolex does this because of the metal bracelet and I would frequently re-adjust it during the day. That’s just something to become accustomed to when using a heavier watch.

The trail loop band while very nice and comfortable has a very smooth surface next to your skin allowing for more slippage unless you really tighten it up, almost to the point of discomfort. Out of curiosity I wanted to compare how the sport loop bands that I had for my previous Apple Watch , a series 5, would compare to the trail. And overall I think they are superior for my uses. I just did a 30 minute rapid walk that is part of my regular exercise routine, and keeping the sport loop at a comfortable snugness there was little to no slippage down my wrist. The sport loop has what I can only describe as a slightly rougher texture, but extremely comfortable feeling against the skin, causing it to be a little grippier than the trail, so less slippage. And they've always been very breathable so they are the bands I use in the summer. The tab at the end of the trail was added, I believe, to make it easier to grab with gloved hands. However the hardened tip end of the sport loop band has always been easy for me to grasp with or without gloves. So that tab really has no purpose in my daily use.

Having said all this about the bands I have ordered a sport band from Nomad which makes highly regarded, high quality products including watch bands. I’ve use their sport bands in the past but not during the summer, just during cooler periods. The rubber-like material is very sweat inducing, and trapping, in hot weather. But the nature of the compound used is quite grippy against the skin and I never had any watch slip down toward my hand. They are bulkier than Apple’s sport band and look like a perfectly appropriate choice and fit for these larger watches. They also have a similar adjustment mechanism to Apple’s band. I ordered the orange Nomad which I think will be a good match for the Ultra.

So with certain activities and general daily usage some slippage of the watch down towards your hand is to be expected depending upon the band used. Running, when your arms are more elevated and parallel to the ground, would not be an issue. I’ve had no functional issue with the watch, but I’m definitely not an “adventurist” so I’m never going to be looking for those specific features or issues that others might. Call quality is very good, but I found that my previous series 5 was also quite good. The Ultra is better when getting a call outdoors. That was noticeable. The daily tracking of oxygen saturation through pulse oximetry, which can be turned off, is interesting but I’m a retired respiratory therapist and the finger tip versions are going to be more accurate because of the proximity to the capillary bed underneath the nail. I’m not using the sleep focus so I can’t speak to the temperature tracking during the night, I think that’s a specific use case and not useful to me. The screen is easier to swipe across for different functions with that flattened shape, that’s been very nice.

Overall, more rugged case, easier to use side button and crown, programmable action button, longer battery life, more responsive and easier to use, and see, flat screen, and really cool new watch faces and compass feature make this a really good choice even for non-adventurists. For me the deciding factor is I got all that for only $50 more than the stainless steel series 8 I would have bought. But there are accommodations to be made. And I am very happy to make them.
 
Very thorough and it makes sense. I returned my AWU on Thursday (three days ago) and am having second thoughts. I may post something about that shortly.

The only thing that really didn't click for me was the Alpine band - I found it finicky to secure and take off, didn't like the way the clasp tended to smack the display, and probably just as an accident couldn't really get the right fit. (I'm sure people have that problem with other fixed-adjustment bands).

I bought an Ocean band separately and liked that better. It was fairly stretchy but not uncomfortable and I didn't find myself sweating a lot under the band (though it is October now...).

I think that if I were going to buy an AWU now I'd buy one with the Trail Loop, which seems like a slightly souped-up Sport/Nike Loop. I wore Nike Sport Bands from Series 3 until this summer, when I bought a Nike Sport Loop (I really liked both the multi-color Pride striped loop and the all-blue loop). The infinite adjustment and one-hand process have really grown on me.

Thanks for your comments!
 
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The infinite adjustment and one-hand process have really grown on me.
Thank you. I fully agree with this about the band. My wife and I have both had Apple Watches since the very first one. We’ve tried a variety of bands over the years and finally settled on the sport loop versions. They really have been the absolute best in comfort and adjustability. We’ve used various ways of cleaning them, either throw them in a meshed laundry bags with socks and run them through a delicate laundry cycle with our clothes or use Woolite and a soft bristled toothbrush.

I only wish Apple had duplicated this band for the trail loop. I’ve been wearing my Ultra with the band all day today without messing around with it once. With the trail version I had been playing with it all day trying to get it to feel just right, not too snug but not loose enough to keep slipping down my arm. Very tedious. The sport loop has been perfect, no futzing needed. It feels so nice I just ordered a new one. The ones I have are the 44mm versions for the previous watches. The new 45 version should work as well or better.
 
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Sport loop with the AWU is IMHO the best.. I only wish apple would sell the AWU WITH that band, at a 50$ discount or just sell the damb AWU sans band.. but then Apple wouldn’t be able to get ~80$ in pure margins on the band alone with the kit.
 
Sport loop with the AWU is IMHO the best.. I only wish apple would sell the AWU WITH that band,
Me too!! Or if they had just used the same material in making the trail loop band, that would have been the absolute perfect band for me. The sport loop does wrap around to the other side of my watch on my small wrist, the trail does not since I ordered the Ultra with the small trail band.
 
I like the Sport Loops and have a couple I use to use all the time with my Series 5 and I now have the Ultra with the Trail Loop. I guess I’m the opposite from all of you as I much prefer the Trail Loop over the Sport Loop and find it far more comfortable. To me it feels softer and far more premium and fits better.
 
For those like me who really like the sport loop, I ordered a new one that I just received. The previous one I put on my Ultra was a 44mm version that I had used with my previous series 5 Apple Watch. Those 44 bands are actually longer than these new 45s. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the new one does not wrap completely around my wrist to the other side of the watch as the 44 does. And of course it’s that 1mm wider so looks just a bit more appropriate for the Ultra. All in all I really think these are the pinnacle of watch bands for me. Still looking forward to see the Nomad I ordered, now that we’re getting to colder weather, those are sportier bands that can get fully immersed without retaining water.
 
I picked up my AWU this morning, and got the trail loop with mine. It is extremely comfortable. Going to get out and go walk for a couple miles here in a bit. I intend on getting the Alpine band down the road, as I do like how it looks in green. My other favorite bands are the braided solo loops. They are also very comfortable.

I upgraded from a Series 7 Stainless Steel, but intend on keeping it around when I need to dress-up, as I have the stainless steel Milanese Loop and a couple leather bands for those occasions!
 
I upgraded from a Series 7 Stainless Steel, but intend on keeping it around when I need to dress-up, as I have the stainless steel Milanese Loop and a couple leather bands for those occasions!
I think that’s a good idea. But my wife and I both got new watches, she got an 8 and I got the Ultra. I needed to cover some of that cost so traded the 5s while they still had some value.
 
I picked up my AWU this morning, and got the trail loop with mine. It is extremely comfortable. Going to get out and go walk for a couple miles here in a bit. I intend on getting the Alpine band down the road, as I do like how it looks in green. My other favorite bands are the braided solo loops. They are also very comfortable.

I upgraded from a Series 7 Stainless Steel, but intend on keeping it around when I need to dress-up, as I have the stainless steel Milanese Loop and a couple leather bands for those occasions!

You’d be surprised at how nicely the leather and Milanese bands can suit the ultra. I completely expected them to not.
 
Very thorough and it makes sense. I returned my AWU on Thursday (three days ago) and am having second thoughts. I may post something about that shortly.

The only thing that really didn't click for me was the Alpine band - I found it finicky to secure and take off, didn't like the way the clasp tended to smack the display, and probably just as an accident couldn't really get the right fit. (I'm sure people have that problem with other fixed-adjustment bands).

I bought an Ocean band separately and liked that better. It was fairly stretchy but not uncomfortable and I didn't find myself sweating a lot under the band (though it is October now...).

I think that if I were going to buy an AWU now I'd buy one with the Trail Loop, which seems like a slightly souped-up Sport/Nike Loop. I wore Nike Sport Bands from Series 3 until this summer, when I bought a Nike Sport Loop (I really liked both the multi-color Pride striped loop and the all-blue loop). The infinite adjustment and one-hand process have really grown on me.

Thanks for your comments!
I returned my Alpine version as I really wasn't liking the band, especially with such a heavy watch. I managed to pick up a new one with the trail loop, and it is so much better for me. The material is a little stretchier and feels softer so I can tighten it down without it feeling uncomfortable, and can really dial in the fit. I went from sorta liking the watch to really liking it by switching to the trail loop.

If you are on the fence, it might be worth going to an apple store and seeing if the trail loop works better for you.
 
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"Overall, more rugged case, easier to use side button and crown, programmable action button, longer battery life, more responsive and easier to use, and see, flat screen, and really cool new watch faces and compass feature make this a really good choice even for non-adventurists. For me the deciding factor is I got all that for only $50 more than the stainless steel series 8 I would have bought. But there are accommodations to be made. And I am very happy to make them." - papbot

This has been my sticking point.... I have had a SS model in series 0,3, and 4.... Ti Edition in the 6 and 7... I believe the better protection and anti scratch screen is well worth the value all by itself.

While I enjoyed dressing up the SS, the Titanium edition has a great blend of dress up and sporty style and lightness.

Currently with the Edition Series 7, I do not need the features of the Series 8...but I may have went for it if a Ti version was available.

The Ultra is an amazing device, but I am trying to convince myself that version 2 of the ultra will be better and I should juuuust wait a year.

I think it will be a challenging year because for the last two weeks I have scoured the forms and have seen mostly all happy Ultra owners! Who knows, I may swing buy Best Buy and just get it over with. lol
 
The ocean and alpine bands stay put quite well, and are comfortable even a little tighter because they are soft and have stretch. Give those a try too. I love the ocean bands. I want more colors.
 
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If you are on the fence, it might be worth going to an apple store and seeing if the trail loop works better for you.
I think the trail loop is the best of the Ultra specific versions. The most comfortable against the skin, easiest to adjust, easiest to take off and put on. Even though I really like the sport loop bands (45mm) the most, the trail, looking at it closely, would seem to be more durable. I’m switching back and forth. They are both excellent.
 
The Ultra is an amazing device, but I am trying to convince myself that version 2 of the ultra will be better and I should juuuust wait a year.
There is very little difference between versions. Think of the iPhones, do the 14s really offer that much more than the 13s? For me maybe because I like having the newest one. But that’s a phone with any number of more complicated features than the watches. The only thing you can probably count on is version 2 will cost more. For me it has taken 2 or 3 watch versions past what I have before I see anything worth the money. That’s why I kept my series 5 till now and have the Ultra probably for the next 3 or 4 years.
 
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There is very little difference between versions. Think of the iPhones, do the 14s really offer that much more than the 13s? For me maybe because I like having the newest one. But that’s a phone with any number of more complicated features than the watches. The only thing you can probably count on is version 2 will cost more. For me it has taken 2 or 3 watch versions past what I have before I see anything worth the money. That’s why I kept my series 5 till now and have the Ultra probably for the next 3 or 4 years.
That is a great point… Slow development overtime leads to big changes but it normally does not happen year over year but when you skipped a few generations. So what you're saying, I need to get the Apple Watch Ultra now and then hold onto it until the ultra four comes along ? lol
 
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The ocean and alpine bands stay put quite well, and are comfortable even a little tighter because they are soft and have stretch. Give those a try too. I love the ocean bands. I want more colors.

I love the ocean bands the best. I purchased other colors on Amazon and the fit and comfortability is still present. I really want to like the sport loops, but find them hard to get past my hands to take off and its a struggle.

I do work and get real sweaty with the ocean bands and they stay put.
 
I returned my Alpine version as I really wasn't liking the band, especially with such a heavy watch. I managed to pick up a new one with the trail loop, and it is so much better for me. The material is a little stretchier and feels softer so I can tighten it down without it feeling uncomfortable, and can really dial in the fit. I went from sorta liking the watch to really liking it by switching to the trail loop.

If you are on the fence, it might be worth going to an apple store and seeing if the trail loop works better for you.

I mistakenly ended up get the alpine band in small, and I needed a medium, tried to exchange it last night at the Apple Store and they said nope. How were you able to return yours? I really don’t want to have to spend another 100 bucks just to get the right band and then have this useless small sized band.
 
Leather bands, Milanese loop, and Link Bracelet. These 3 suit the AW Ultra really well.
I mean, to each their own. To me, contrasting metals do not match. The leather band I have looks fine. I do not like the way any of the stainless steal bands look against the titanium. I prefer the titanium finish after having the stainless steel series 4 and 7.
 
I mistakenly ended up get the alpine band in small, and I needed a medium, tried to exchange it last night at the Apple Store and they said nope. How were you able to return yours? I really don’t want to have to spend another 100 bucks just to get the right band and then have this useless small sized band.
Um, you just need to go back and tell them "nope." That is crazy.
 
I mistakenly ended up get the alpine band in small, and I needed a medium, tried to exchange it last night at the Apple Store and they said nope. How were you able to return yours? I really don’t want to have to spend another 100 bucks just to get the right band and then have this useless small sized band.
I was able to return mine and just buy another watch because I got lucky and saw they were in stock at the store.
 
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