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My confused little friend.

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haiggy

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Aug 20, 2003
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I have been trying to convince my friend that he should get a mac. He was okay with the idea until it came down to price. So, he went out and bought a PC. Well, he has become very dilusional and thinks Apple is stupid, you can't run Linux on a mac, and how there is no advantage to using UNIX because he says it is thousands of wasteless lines of code. He says windows is the best operating system and I want to smack him for it. :p
I just want you guys to post anything that will help prove my side of the arguement as to why he is so brainwashed. Also list any advantages that Mac OS X has over windows (yes, I know there are SOME disadvantages).
Thanks - hopefully I'm not that incredibly stupid by posting this thread. lol
 
But...

Why would your friend quote Macs "not running Linux" as a problem, when he thinks Unix is just "thousands of lines of "wasteless" code"? Does he know the two are very similar - though not the same.

In addition - if he thinks Unix is such a load of pooh - which is SURELY why it runs on thousands of servers, distributed computing systems, et al, all around the world - then why would he even consider OS X, at all? Since OS X is built on a FreeBSD core - FreeBSD being the original Berekely Software Distro derived Unix OS.

Anyways - give him some of that info :)

Peace.
 
You can run Linux on Macs. And Linux is basically like UNIX. And Windows sucks.

( using Windows XP at work right now :( )
 
he is right on the price, Macs cost much more than PCs and offer less performance
but then again OS X is so much nicer than windows I've lost countless hours over trying to deal with viruses things that don't work etc
 
at least the "wasted code in unix" doesnt have security flaws.

also, funny how you can't run Linux on a mac. my machine must be a freak of nature as i type this message in SuSE Linux on a Powerbook.

i concur with the sending him a virus recommendation.
as we say in Indiana, "That'll learn'em"
 
Just sit him at a dinner gathering. Then walk around the table swinging a baseball bat. Just like Al Capone did in 'The Untouchables'. When he starts giggling about how good Windows is; wind up and crack him on the head as HARD as you possibly can. Repeat this action two more times for desired affect.
 
haha thanks guys for your replies.... you guys crack me up :D
sometimes my friend doesnt make any sense at all... i think he has microsoft pms.... or maybe bill gates is living in his head :eek:
 
Has he seen the Fink project yet?? HUNDREDS of linux packages available to run side by side with OSX apps? How is that wasted code again?
 
The simple version: Macs rule. Get over it.

The more complex version: Mac OS X is based on Mach, FreeBSD, OpenStep, the Apple supported mkLinux project (Yes, Linux), and leftover elements of the Rhapsody project. The Darwin kernel is Open Source (hopefully he'll know what that means), and can use Debian Linux packages with little to no modification, through package managers like Fink and dselect. It has an X11 interface that comes with Panther, but there are free versions on the web (XFree86 is one). OS X uses some of the industray standard enterprise security solutions, drawing from the best of the Open Source community to keep itself safe (OpenSSH, Kerberos, and so on). It runs on hardware that is more energy efficient, less noisy, and better designed and assembled than most PCs, and which also tends to hold its value and usefulness much longer (see the many stories about people like me, who had 4 year old laptops running Jaguar well).

Also, it doesn't suck.
 
Horrortaxi said:
Get a new friend.
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Damn straight.

A friend who doesn't listen to you is no real friend at all ... and I bet he eats baby squirrels for breakfast ... and he probably smells of cabbage ... and I bet his parents are cousins ... (etc etc)

Alternatively, teach him exactly how a virus on works and the sheer number he will be getting in the next 3 years compared to those suffered by the Mac in the last 10. That seems to do it for me.

:)
 
JesseJames said:
Just sit him at a dinner gathering. Then walk around the table swinging a baseball bat. Just like Al Capone did in 'The Untouchables'. When he starts giggling about how good Windows is; wind up and crack him on the head as HARD as you possibly can. Repeat this action two more times for desired affect.
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My future brother in-law is in dire need of this "treatment." Only my philosophy is to avoid the head and concentrate on the body - you want the individual to be full conscious of what is going down. Robert De Niro's character in This Boy's Life comes to mind when he says:

"People like that you gotta hurt em. You gotta inflict pain or they'll never leave you alone..."

Seriously though, my advice is to ignore him. Take pride in what you have and how it improves your computer experience and daily life. Engaging your friend in this type of playground battle will only lead to frustration for the both of you. I've been there. Be a happy Mac owner not a pissed off Mac owner.
 
mrgreen4242 said:
HUNDREDS of linux packages available to run side by side with OSX apps?
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Technically, they're not linux packages (or else there would be no need -- you could just download the Debian PPC packages). They're packages for Mac OS X (or Darwin if you like) of software that mostly runs happily on other platforms, too (mostly Unix, but also Windows).
 
at least the "wasted code in unix" doesnt have security flaws.
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Well, Unix has many, many security flaws. Holes you could drive a truck through! Like any OS, it's susceptible to things like DBO's allowing arbitrary code execution, etc. On top of that, there's things like race condition problems - though pretty hard to exploit IRL. You just gotta learn to deal with the problems, I guess. Anyways, doesn't really matter to most home users, running a one-user system.

peace.
 
Life's too short - got over it and move on.
Why is it so important to you? If he's happy leave him alone.
However, it is fair to say that when a windows problem croips up "No Whining"
 
maclamb said:
Life's too short - got over it and move on.
Why is it so important to you? If he's happy leave him alone.
However, it is fair to say that when a windows problem croips up "No Whining"
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I would, but he keeps on bringing it up aswell. I may aswell ignore him. :D
 
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