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strohscw

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I am still using a maxed out 15" 2015 MacBook Pro because there are some developements I do not like:

1.) SD-Card reader, I need it and no I do not want to connect an external, nor do I want to transfer via WLan. I know that the Mac housings getting thinner and thinner but I think that there is enough space for a card reader.

2.) USB3, I know USB-C is smaller, faster and better for handling, but even after years there are still so many tools that connect only via USB3 and I hate the need for having adapters for all equipments I want to connect. So please Apple, just give me one of these connectors.

I know that selling adapters is a huge business and I already have done my dute and have many of them but seldom the one with me that I actual need.
I realy like the design but we must not forget that they are foremost tools for working.
 
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1.) SD-Card reader, I need it and no I do not want to connect an external, nor do I want to transfer via WLan. I know that the Mac housings getting thinner and thinner but I think that there is enough space for a card reader.

2.) USB3, I know USB-C is smaller, faster and better for handling, but even after years there are still so many tools that connect only via USB3 and I hate the need for having adapters for all equipments I want to connect. So please Apple, just give me one of these connectors.
You have two options, accept the future and embrace USB-C, and use dongles. or buy a PC, that has what you need.

I know that selling adapters is a huge business
Yes, its turned into a nice cottage industry, but I bet apple makes more money on mac sales then dongles. My point is they didn't design the MBP with USB-C for financial reasons.
 
There is one huge advantage of usb-c / thunderbolt over the previous multi-port approach. You are not blocked with preselected (and soon potentially outdates) technology.
I faced it on my MBP 2013 and earlier. Examples:

1. Built-in SD card reader in MBP 2013. I stopped using it as it was too slow. It did not support UHS-II. I've purchased dedicated fast card reader as I am transferring big RAW & video files.

2. USB 2.0 in my retired MBP 2010. Yes I had firewire, but usb 3 was faster and soon became a prerequisite for effective work. If I have thunderbolt I could prolong useful life of my machine via dongle.

My point is - technology evolves.
Tomorrow we may have different memory card standard (we already have). HDMI protocol evolves and with build-in ports we are blocked with current implementation.
The beauty of thunderbolt Macs is you can evolve with your new peripherals and new technology - 40GB seems quite capable within the predictable future (of course there will be future/faster..)

I personally have fully adopted new one-port-rule-them-all approach and I am not looking back. Yes there is small disadvantage of dongle world, but there are way more positives for me.
 
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I get the one fast port standard. It makes a lot of sense.

Still, I’ve been using a legacy USB ports regularly since they came out and that will continue for the foreseeable future. One or two would be great.
 
Couldn't agree more. Apple has been getting ahead of itself. I'd draw a parallel with the lack of 3.5mm headphone jacks on the iPhones, which I'd say was a move made a few years too early.

Another option is to get a PC laptop and make a Hackintosh out of it, but it's not for the feint of heart.

USB-C might also become outdated technology one day, then with the new MBP, you'll be stuck with four identically outdated ports.
 
I actually am fine letting the SD Card slot go. Especially now a days, not every video/photo camera even all use SD cards. There are a variety of formats being shot on now and it actually makes more sense to have a USB-C dongle out to whatever you may need it to be rather than have only one slot for one card format, or to have Apple try to cram as many card format slots on the machine as possible. It sucks in the transition phase, but mid to long term, they are doing the right thing dropping the SD Card slot. The SD Card slots that were built into the machine were slower than a current USB-C dongled one would be anyway.
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Couldn't agree more. Apple has been getting ahead of itself. I'd draw a parallel with the lack of 3.5mm headphone jacks on the iPhones, which I'd say was a move made a few years too early.

Another option is to get a PC laptop and make a Hackintosh out of it, but it's not for the feint of heart.

USB-C might also become outdated technology one day, then with the new MBP, you'll be stuck with four identically outdated ports.


I don't think the USB-C port will become outdated. It's the port perfected. I think the industry will hold onto that port until everything's ready to be 100% wireless.
 
I don't think the USB-C port will become outdated. It's the port perfected. I think the industry will hold onto that port until everything's ready to be 100% wireless.

You're probably right, I certainly hope so. USB 4 is coming soon but it reuses the same USB-C connector: https://www.pcworld.com/article/334...rd-means-for-usb-chaos-and-thunderbolt-3.html.

It seems like the physical connector won't change again any time soon, but the protocols will, which may be the way the current USB-C ports do eventually become outdated: https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/

I'd still take one or two USB-C plus a couple of USB-A ports, an SD card reader, and an HDMI output, over four USB-C. Guess that's going to be a long-shot with Apple.
 
You're probably right, I certainly hope so. USB 4 is coming soon but it reuses the same USB-C connector: https://www.pcworld.com/article/334...rd-means-for-usb-chaos-and-thunderbolt-3.html.

It seems like the physical connector won't change again any time soon, but the protocols will, which may be the way the current USB-C ports do eventually become outdated: https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/

I'd still take one or two USB-C plus a couple of USB-A ports, an SD card reader, and an HDMI output, over four USB-C. Guess that's going to be a long-shot with Apple.


Even as new protocols come out. USB 5, 6 and so on. They'll still be backwards compatible and USB 3 type C cables and Thunderbolt 3 and onward cables would all still be useable. They just won't carry the full data/charging throughput whatever the new future USB/thunderbolt protocols will allow. Outdated, but still functional, which hasn't been the case with past physical port changes.
 
I agree that there MUST be space for a card reader. However, I disagree with needing USB 3. I don't know how many times I have to tell people you don't need dongles. All you need to do is buy the cables to connect to the same ol peripherals.
 
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