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iThinkurBeats

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Granted, everyone has their own needs.
I tried the 13-inch iPad Pro with the nanotexture display, then bought the 13-inch with a glossy display, and eventually swapped it for the 11-inch with a glossy display.
After much hesitation, I went back to the model I originally wanted.

I immediately rejected the nanotexture display because, in my humble opinion, its technical performance didn't convince me.

The images are slightly less sharp, the colors a little less vivid, and the glass makes everything brighter even without direct glare.
This causes blacks to turn gray, and it also means you can't install tempered glass to protect it.

These features aren't available on the glossy display, which can actually be fitted with anti-glare films for those who need them, achieving the same effect.

Which one did you choose and why?

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I hate matte displays. I love glossy displays. Back in the day all el cheapo displays were matte and glossy were at a huge premium. Now that all displays are glossy, it is basically nostalgia for some people for wanting matte. Matte were always the garbage options for people who couldn't afford Apple or glossy displays a couple of days ago.
 
I hate matte displays. I love glossy displays. Back in the day all el cheapo displays were matte and glossy were at a huge premium. Now that all displays are glossy, it is basically nostalgia for some people for wanting matte. Matte were always the garbage options for people who couldn't afford Apple or glossy displays a couple of days ago.
LOL at "for people who couldn't afford Apple or glossy displays".

I wonder where Apple found the courage to charge people extra $ for switching from superior glossy to garbage nano. And Apple also locked nano glass behind the 1TB and 2TB M4 & M5 iPad Pros to so that people who don't need extra storage have to pay for overpriced storage, then pay for nano glass.

At least other companies like Huawei, Xiaomi, Wacom would include their garbage nano glass without extra charges.

It's now the poor people who have to make do with glossy.

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All that above is a joke.

What I really want to say is it's great to have options for those who prefer matte.

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One thing I don't understand is why there are so many people who think one option is good (for them), it naturally means the other option is dog ****. Oh oh, I just recalled it's called the main character syndrome.

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By the way, those comparison photos above of matte vs glossy don't tell the full story. In the real world when you actually use the tablet, the display won't be facing any light source unless there are lights behind you by the side, because your body and head will block the light source.

For those looking at glossy, sure the colours will appear more vibrant, but you'll also see your own face. While Apple's anti-reflective coating is pretty good, it's not 100% anti-reflective.

So for those who accept more vibrant colours will also have to accept seeing reflections.

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I hate glossy displays. If a laptop has a glossy display, it's a deal breaker for me.

As for matte screen protectors, many will often diffuse light until the whole screen looks glaring, and can look even more glaring than without a matte screen protector. So anti-glare film can actually produce even more glare. An example of more effective anti-glare is come from matte LCD monitors that have been around for decades.
 
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I prefer matte, but not nanotexture. My touchscreen thinkpad has a native matte display which takes no fingerprints. Nano takes fingerprints left and right and they are even more annoying than on glossy. Also it scratches more easily than regular glass, let alone than glass + screen protectors.
When it comes to screen protectors, I only use adhesive matte ones. Glass screern protect make the iPad look like a mirror (as if they removed the antiglare coating in the standard glass display), and magnetic ones make the display very grainy.

Among the adhesive ones if I want less reflections but at the cost of more grain (although not as much as magnetic ones) I'll take the more matte ones (like ESR etc). If I want the closest things to the standanrd displays (but at the cost of almost as many reflections), but with no fingerprints, I'll use Paperlike.
Alternative, I use no screen protector and regularly clean the screen like on the M4 / M5, too good to make a compromise there. And the antireflective coating is the best so far (improved over M1/M2). The compromise I have to make there is to avoid dark mode. On light mode, you see much less the reflections compared to dark mode.
 
For those looking at glossy, sure the colours will appear more vibrant, but you'll also see your own face. While Apple's anti-reflective coating is pretty good, it's not 100% anti-reflective.

So for those who accept more vibrant colours will also have to accept seeing reflections.
you will see you face if you watch a dark image/background, I am in front on my M3 Macbook air and I see zero reflection of my face
 
I love the nano texture display. The photos you posted do not do it justice - in-person it looks much different. Sure, the colors are slightly different and there’s a little bit of grain, but I never notice it unless I’m staring at a white or grey screen. In actual usage, I don’t notice it. The display is still amazing, blacks are accurate and everything is fluid. But the anti-reflection is astounding. Plus, the feeling of the texture on my finger and apple pencil is beautiful. I will never go to a non-nano iPad again
 
you will see you face if you watch a dark image/background, I am in front on my M3 Macbook air and I see zero reflection of my face
IF you have a dark background. Do you always have bright background 100% of the time?

The thing is most people see reflection and don't even think about it. The next time you look at your screen, or watch a video, pay special attention to all the reflection that your brain does a perfect job of not-noticing.
 
I prefer matte, but not nanotexture. My touchscreen thinkpad has a native matte display which takes no fingerprints. Nano takes fingerprints left and right and they are even more annoying than on glossy. Also it scratches more easily than regular glass, let alone than glass + screen protectors.
When it comes to screen protectors, I only use adhesive matte ones. Glass screern protect make the iPad look like a mirror (as if they removed the antiglare coating in the standard glass display), and magnetic ones make the display very grainy.

Among the adhesive ones if I want less reflections but at the cost of more grain (although not as much as magnetic ones) I'll take the more matte ones (like ESR etc). If I want the closest things to the standanrd displays (but at the cost of almost as many reflections), but with no fingerprints, I'll use Paperlike.
Alternative, I use no screen protector and regularly clean the screen like on the M4 / M5, too good to make a compromise there. And the antireflective coating is the best so far (improved over M1/M2). The compromise I have to make there is to avoid dark mode. On light mode, you see much less the reflections compared to dark mode.
For me, the definition and colors of the nanotexture display are worse. Blacks are gray. It's like having a low-quality IPS display.

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IF you have a dark background. Do you always have bright background 100% of the time?

The thing is most people see reflection and don't even think about it. The next time you look at your screen, or watch a video, pay special attention to all the reflection that your brain does a perfect job of not-noticing.
I always do pay attention to reflections, I hate them as much as you do, but again I avoid using dark mode on glossy displays and most web pages (like this one) and documents have a white background, it's only really some movies that tend to be dark, and I barely see any reflections at home. If I do I can slightly change the angle of the display. On the go I use iPads that have matte screen protectors.
 
I hate matte displays. I love glossy displays. Back in the day all el cheapo displays were matte and glossy were at a huge premium. Now that all displays are glossy, it is basically nostalgia for some people for wanting matte. Matte were always the garbage options for people who couldn't afford Apple or glossy displays a couple of days ago.
You clearly weren’t old enough to remember that “back in the day” for Apple’s MacBook Pros in the late 2000s, Apple charged a premium for matte displays like they do now.
 
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You clearly weren’t old enough to remember that “back in the day” for Apple’s MacBook Pros in the late 2000s, Apple charged a premium for matte displays like they do now.
I know they had matte textured displays back when the Macbook Pro 17-inch was still around. But I don't remember them charging extra because matte was the only option back then.
 
I can’t afford nano-texture on iPad. I love my Apple Studio Display with nano-texture? - but I have no experience putting fingerprints on it.

My iPads and iPhones I use iCarez matte screen protectors - but I’m using dark mode 100% of the time. I can’t live without them.

Glossy is sharper but I can’t stand the reflection - and the need to use light mode and bump up the brightness to keep from seeing my face in the reflection.

99% of the time I use my iPad - I’m in a dark room with brightness way down, reading books or articles. (Dark mode). My iPhone - the matte screen protectors makes using it outside so much nicer. Obviously this is matte screen protectors not nano-texture display talk.

The pictures above show a huge difference especially in a very well lit room.

My $.02? Save some $, buy the cheaper iPad, use an iCarez matte screen protectors - I’ve been doing this for a long long time. :p
 
Do you want maximum color and brightness for watching movies, etc? Get the regular screen.

Do you want a much more legible screen for reading and note taking in a wide variety of conditions? Get the nano.

Hopefully the nano will be made available on the more affordable models soon the way it is for the MBP’s.
 
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For a laptop, yes. Nano is great, and frankly I don't notice the fuzziness or contrast drop that other people report.

If you're touching the screen, no. I find that textured glass looks great but tends to abrade finger skin ever so slightly, and that dead skin dust can be annoying to wipe off in my experience.
 
It is all a personal preference and of course where you use it. The artifacts of a glossy display in an environment where lights are behind me gives me really bad headaches if I use it for more than a couple hours at a time. LCD panels (which were all matte to begin with) basically saved my career.
In the right environment I do prefer glossy though.

I'd love to get a Nano iPad, but just haven't wanted to justify paying so much more for it as basically get charged for 1TB of storage which I don't need to even get the option to pay more for nano.
 
I generally prefer matte displays to glossy ones, but specifically for tablets/iPads, I don't feel I really need to the nano-texture (and I also don't need to the 1TB storage which Apple put up as the prerequisite for nano-texture displays).
 
I know they had matte textured displays back when the Macbook Pro 17-inch was still around. But I don't remember them charging extra because matte was the only option back then.

2009, the 17" had a $50 fee for a matte panel.

In 2010, the 15" gained the matte panel option but it was paired with the 'high res' panel, so it cost $150 (the high res was $100 by itself). The 17" remained at $50.
Those prices remained the same for both 2011 revisions. The 2012 15" non-Retina MBP was a flat $100 for high res or high res matte.

It's worth remembering they had different lid designs, part of the matte process meant no cover glass. The matte screen had a raised bezel just like the 2008-2017 MacBook Air design.

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I got the nano texture, and I love it. I already have a 15" M1 Macbook Pro, so my 11" iPad Pro is primarily for travel and mobile use. Let me tell you, this thing has saved my butt so many times when the guy next to me on the plane wants to keep the window open all flight.
 
I love the nano texture display. While it objectively might be less vivid, experientially I don't really feel it.

I love the nano texture because it is a much better device to read on, and it's a wonderful screen for handwriting or drawing. Because I use my iPad to read and write a lot, I much, much prefer the nano texture screen. In my opinion, it's a game changer, especially if you read at cafes, libraries, and other places that may have overhead lights.
 
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The answer is both have pros and cons, and where you stand on those pros and cons determines which you prefer.

I bought an M5 1TB and decided to go glossy, because I thought I would prioritize the sharper image with deeper blacks, and greater contrast vs. the nano-texture. I typically prefer matte-screens when photo editing, but figured I could slap a high quality matte screen protector on the glossy screen and pretty much get what the NT was offering; after doing just that, and then taking my new M5 to compare side by side with the NT at the Apple store I immediately went home and arranged for a return.

The new order is an M5 1TB NT. I thought a standard display with a matte screen protector would be almost as good as the NT display, and I was wrong; the NT display is MUCH, MUCH better in clairty, and color. It turns out my real priorities are how well my edits turn out when most people view them, and in direct testing they turn out slightly better on a NT screen. I also much prefer the way the NT display feels in use to both the bare glossy screen, and a matte screen cover.
 
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The answer is both have pros and cons, and where you stand on those pros and cons determines which you prefer.

I bought an M5 1TB and decided to go glossy, because I thought I would prioritize the sharper image with deeper blacks, and greater contrast vs. the nano-texture. I typically prefer matte-screens when photo editing, but figured I could slap a high quality matte screen protector on the glossy screen and pretty much get what the NT was offering; after doing just that, and then taking my new M5 to compare side by side with the NT at the Apple store I immediately went home and arranged for a return.

The new order is an M5 1TB NT. I thought a standard display with a matte screen protector would be almost as good as the NT display, and I was wrong; the NT display is MUCH, MUCH better in clairty, and color. It turns out my real priorities are how well my edits turn out when most people view them, and in direct testing they turn out slightly better on a NT screen. I also much prefer the way the NT display feels in use to both the bare glossy screen, and a matte screen cover.
what brand had you bought?
 
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