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jxyama

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read this on /.

for 3rd gen. iPod (that's all i've tested on...), make an empty file called "_show_voltage" (no quotes) in a directory called iPod_Control/Device/ within iPod.

(i mounted my iPod as a FWHD and used terminal to make the file.)

this will change the battery gauge into a three digit number. (presumably the battery voltage.) 500 (=5.00 volts) is full and 200 (=2.00 volts) is nearly empty. it's a bit more precise and "absolute" than the bar style battery gauge.

i presume you can simply erase the file to get the old gauge back...
 
neat little trick, works fine on my iPod i'll have to test it a little to see if it's better than the gauge, i would image it won't be though since voltage will be rather high for most of the time and then abruptly die
where did you find this trick?

jxyama said:
read this on /.

for 3rd gen. iPod (that's all i've tested on...), make an empty file called "_show_voltage" (no quotes) in a directory called iPod_Control/Device/ within iPod.

(i mounted my iPod as a FWHD and used terminal to make the file.)

this will change the battery gauge into a three digit number. (presumably the battery voltage.) 500 (=5.00 volts) is full and 200 (=2.00 volts) is nearly empty. it's a bit more precise and "absolute" than the bar style battery gauge.

i presume you can simply erase the file to get the old gauge back...
 
thehuncamunca said:
neat little trick, works fine on my iPod i'll have to test it a little to see if it's better than the gauge, i would image it won't be though since voltage will be rather high for most of the time and then abruptly die
where did you find this trick?

the number conveys the same info as the graphic gauge - so it won't drop abruptly. it's just more "precise" than the graphic one, but still the same info. (rather, iPod software takes this voltage info and converts to the graphic form to display.)

i saw it on /. post about the potential design flaw of iPod Mini a few days ago.
 
Someone mentioned this last fall. I tried it but didn't find it that useful. I just run my ipod until my batteries are dead and charge it whenever i can so i don't realy pay attention to the gauge.
 
Instructions for a novice?

jxyama said:
read this on /.

for 3rd gen. iPod (that's all i've tested on...), make an empty file called "_show_voltage" (no quotes) in a directory called iPod_Control/Device/ within iPod.

(i mounted my iPod as a FWHD and used terminal to make the file.)

this will change the battery gauge into a three digit number. (presumably the battery voltage.) 500 (=5.00 volts) is full and 200 (=2.00 volts) is nearly empty. it's a bit more precise and "absolute" than the bar style battery gauge.

i presume you can simply erase the file to get the old gauge back...


THIS SOUNDS REAL COOL.. but I tried reading your instructions over/over, and can't really understand it.
2 weeks ago, I got my first ever Mac (iMac 20") along with the Mini Ipod...
Whenever you have time, or see this next, can you walk me (any maybe others?, I hope) in making this directory?
Thanks in advance!
 
About2SwitchOvr said:
THIS SOUNDS REAL COOL.. but I tried reading your instructions over/over, and can't really understand it.
2 weeks ago, I got my first ever Mac (iMac 20") along with the Mini Ipod...
Whenever you have time, or see this next, can you walk me (any maybe others?, I hope) in making this directory?
Thanks in advance!

k, a quick and dirty way...

1) mount your iPod as FWHD. (use iTunes/Preferences to turn this on)
2) open a terminal (note: type stuff in bold, replace italics with relevant names)
3) type cd /Volumes/name of your iPod/iPod_Control/Device/
4) type pico _show_voltage
5) in the text editor that comes up, press control-o
6) confirm the name of the file by pressing return
7) exit by pressing control-x
8) close the terminal window
9) eject the iPod

to remove the file, follow steps 1 through 3, then type rm _show_voltage
 
THANKS!

jxyama said:
k, a quick and dirty way...

1) mount your iPod as FWHD. (use iTunes/Preferences to turn this on)
2) open a terminal (note: type stuff in bold, replace italics with relevant names)
3) type cd /Volumes/name of your iPod/iPod_Control/Device/
4) type pico _show_voltage
5) in the text editor that comes up, press control-o
6) confirm the name of the file by pressing return
7) exit by pressing control-x
8) close the terminal window
9) eject the iPod

to remove the file, follow steps 1 through 3, then type rm _show_voltage

I'm going to check this out once I get home. Thanks again!
-Chris
 
I still prefer the graphic as to the numbers... I don't really care how charged it is... if its low, I charge it, if not I let it sleep. The battery is more visually appealing.
 
jxyama said:
k, a quick and dirty way...

1) mount your iPod as FWHD. (use iTunes/Preferences to turn this on)
2) open a terminal (note: type stuff in bold, replace italics with relevant names)
3) type cd /Volumes/name of your iPod/iPod_Control/Device/
4) type pico _show_voltage
5) in the text editor that comes up, press control-o
6) confirm the name of the file by pressing return
7) exit by pressing control-x
8) close the terminal window
9) eject the iPod

to remove the file, follow steps 1 through 3, then type rm _show_voltage

Or to consolidate steps 3-7:

touch /Volumes/name of your iPod/iPod_Control/Device/_show_voltage

and to remove:

rm /Volumes/name of your iPod/iPod_Control/Device/_show_voltage

Also, I don't think the number represents volts, but an arbitrary number representing battery life remaining. The volts for the battery would be the same throughout the charge, otherwise the system would die soon after the volts fell below the required amount.
 
tomf87 said:
Or to consolidate steps 4-7:

touch _show_voltage

Also, I don't think the number represents volts, but an arbitrary number representing battery life remaining. The volts for the battery would be the same throughout the charge, otherwise the system would die soon after the volts fell below the required amount.

nice. wasn't familiar with that command.

also, yeah, it's not the voltage... it must be amp-hour or something.
 
jxyama said:
nice. wasn't familiar with that command.

also, yeah, it's not the voltage... it must be amp-hour or something.

Just editing my post, but yeah, I agree with you on the number.
 
While on the topic...

tomf87 said:
Just editing my post, but yeah, I agree with you on the number.

I heard that it's not good to overchange the mini iPod. I use this mainly at work and keep it plugged into the wall outlet via FWire... I don't feel it getting any warmer. Can I get some acquiescence that this won't harm the Mini? (basically, use the mini while plugged into the wall outlet.. It's normally plugged in for a good 8 hours a day, while playing...)
 
It's not good to overcharge any battery that I know of. I would use it until the battery gets low then charge it.
 
This is probably just the placebo effect, but my battery seems to be lasting longer after adding the volt (amp) meter. Before it would last 2 days for me with my amount of usage, with the same amount it has now gone all week. I'll have to perform more test to tell. (At the end of the week, it still has 250 left)
 
Tested it on my iPod mini and it works fine, showing 525 when fully charged...

jxyama said:
for 3rd gen. iPod (that's all i've tested on...), make an empty file called "_show_voltage" (no quotes) in a directory called iPod_Control/Device/ within iPod.
 
About2SwitchOvr said:
I heard that it's not good to overchange the mini iPod. I use this mainly at work and keep it plugged into the wall outlet via FWire... I don't feel it getting any warmer. Can I get some acquiescence that this won't harm the Mini? (basically, use the mini while plugged into the wall outlet.. It's normally plugged in for a good 8 hours a day, while playing...)

I use my iPod 15GB plugged in at work 9-10 hours a day. I run it off battery and drain it once a week. Been doing this for 8 months now. Battery fully charged lasts a little over 7.5 hours.
 
tomf87 said:
Also, I don't think the number represents volts, but an arbitrary number representing battery life remaining. The volts for the battery would be the same throughout the charge, otherwise the system would die soon after the volts fell below the required amount.

Most portable electronic devices today use voltage regulators to supply a constant voltage to the logic circuits because battery voltage isn't actually constant as the battery discharges. For example, many cell phones today have a lithium-ion battery similar to the iPod's: the battery voltage ranges between 4.2V when fully charged and 3.0V when "dead", and drops in a very well-characterized curve as the battery discharges. The voltage regulators in the cell phone drop the battery voltage to a constant 1.8V or 2.8V (exact voltage(s) dependent on the chipset). Below the battery's "dead" voltage, it simply can't supply enough current (and hence, power) to the circuits driven by the regulators for them to operate. The voltage of the battery during discharge is thus a reasonably accurate way of gauging how much of a charge remains.

That's a long way of saying, yes, that number is quite likely the actual voltage of the battery. :D
 
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