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mk313

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Have & have been reapply happy with a Second Generation Nest Thermostat for a long time now, but recently got a notice from Google that they will be deprecating those & I'll have to upgrade in order to use it in any way other than as a dumb thermostat.

My mom had a nest thermostat (not the learning one, but the basic one) that never did work for her (worked with heating, but not cooling & even had an HVAC guy over to try to fix it). So it was basically brand new. I installed it over the weekend, and while the device is fine, the new Google Home App is garbage compared to the nest app.

To give one example, we have a lot of temperature presets, and in the Nest App, you could set them all by clicking on a chart of the day, it was really fast & really easy to do & graphically was easy to see how your days looked. In Google Home, there is no chart, it's just a list of temps, so you need to scroll through each of them & to add any, it's like a 10 step process (maybe not exactly, but it feels like it, and each one has to have a different name, or else you get a message that that already exists.

Plus, I can't find any way to set up different temps for Heating vs Cooling vs Heating/ Cooling, so I have to pick one set of temps year round. Not liking this at all & looking for a replacement, I'd be happy with HomeKit, but also happy with anything better than this trash app.

Any advice on HomeKit (or other) thermostats that work better/simpler than the ones using the Google Home App. Thanks in advance.
 
Recent 2nd gen. Nest to Ecobee convert. I am very happy with the Ecobee, I went with the premium version for the extra sensor. All is working well and I feel the house maintains temps better now. It also integrates with HomeKit and Siri. I don’t use that aspect much, I typically just control it from the native app but it’s nice to have choices.
 
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Was in the same situation but I upgraded to the Gen 4 Nest. It is an improvement and it does directly integrate with HomeKit via Matter but you don’t have as much control as you do with the Google Home app (I also have it integrated with home assistant, again via Matter).

One thing I like is it comes with an extra temperature sensor that give a lot of nice options.
 
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Was in the same situation but I upgraded to the Gen 4 Nest. It is an improvement and it does directly integrate with HomeKit via Matter but you don’t have as much control as you do with the Google Home app (I also have it integrated with home assistant, again via Matter).

One thing I like is it comes with an extra temperature sensor that give a lot of nice options.
interesting. I didn't realize the new Nests worked with HomeKit. I do have an email from Google that I can get one of the Gen 4's for $150 or something like that. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the heads up on that.
 
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