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Robster3

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I got a 15" 8gb 25ggb refurb from Apple to try over easter, now me and my daughter have fallen for it. It will be a buss machine but for her to use as well.
I have found a 10% off deal and 18 months interest free so am going to get a brand new one. I got 5 years out of my last pc laptops. I have found the 256gb is a bit restrictive have used half and haven't put parallels/windows and a virtual of my old pc about 80gb on it, so wouldn't have much left.
For $600 more i can get the 2.7 16gb 512 gb which is nothing over the 18 months.
My 2 questions are:

1. The 2.7 16gb 512gb will be alot faster right?
2. Will it be hotter though?

cheers, only have 4.5 hours to decide.
 
Yes it will be faster. It will also be hotter but in reality you probably wouldn't feel any temperature difference in typical day to day use anyway.

I'm considering the same system at the mo! Lol
 
Yes it will be faster. It will also be hotter but in reality you probably wouldn't feel any temperature difference in typical day to day use anyway.

I'm considering the same system at the mo! Lol

Nice, for $600 extra and considering i will keep it till the death think i will go the 2.7. 256gb is too small for me anyway i think.The 2.3 refurb only gets hotter with video or games. like now it is 43c and not noticeable.
Think i will get AC for $41 off too.
 
The 2.7 will be slightly faster, likely you wont see much real-world difference, a 2.3 with 512 might be a option if they stock. 2.7 will run hotter, however only if you push the CPU hard.

No can't do a order, stock only. 2.4 or 2.7 only. I may not need the 16gb ram now but down the track maybe.
I bumped my 09 imac from 8-16gb ram and noticed a big diff, surel the mbpr would be the same?
 
Ended up getting the 2.4 8GB 256GB Model, will just get rid of some of the movies i have in iTunes that is what is using up 85GB. Should get us out of trouble.
Apple in Australia now are giving 2 year warranty so not sure if Apple care is worth it, it doesn't cover damage like in US though.
 
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I got a 15" 8gb 25ggb refurb from Apple to try over easter, now me and my daughter have fallen for it. It will be a buss machine but for her to use as well.
I have found a 10% off deal and 18 months interest free so am going to get a brand new one. I got 5 years out of my last pc laptops. I have found the 256gb is a bit restrictive have used half and haven't put parallels/windows and a virtual of my old pc about 80gb on it, so wouldn't have much left.
For $600 more i can get the 2.7 16gb 512 gb which is nothing over the 18 months.
My 2 questions are:

1. The 2.7 16gb 512gb will be alot faster right?
2. Will it be hotter though?

cheers, only have 4.5 hours to decide.

The 2.7Ghz will probably be significantly faster, but only if you're doing demanding work. You probably won't notice a difference in basic tasks such as social networking.

I would however recommend getting it if you plan on running a virtual machine(s) on it.
 
The 2.7Ghz will probably be significantly faster, but only if you're doing demanding work. You probably won't notice a difference in basic tasks such as social networking.

I would however recommend getting it if you plan on running a virtual machine(s) on it.

I am not a demanding user just the basics and iPhoto, bit of home movies.
Yeah i am not sure about the VM as i just set it up on my 09 iMac with parallels, and my only use for windows is excel and access programmes i have, that i may only use a couple of times a week. Will put mac office on it though i like word better than the windows version.
Its done now anyway 2.4.

The Retina is a winner, just wish the Kindle app was retina.
 
I am not a demanding user just the basics and iPhoto, bit of home movies.
Yeah i am not sure about the VM as i just set it up on my 09 iMac with parallels, and my only use for windows is excel and access programmes i have, that i may only use a couple of times a week. Will put mac office on it though i like word better than the windows version.
Its done now anyway 2.4.

The Retina is a winner, just wish the Kindle app was retina.

Sounds like you wouldn't notice nor need the 2.7Ghz anyhow then.

Enjoy your new machine :)
 
Ended up getting the 2.4 8GB 256GB Model, will just get rid of some of the movies i have in iTunes that is what is using up 85GB. Should get us out of trouble.
Apple in Australia now are giving 2 year warranty so not sure if Apple care is worth it, it doesn't cover damage like in US though.

So you got a refurb to try it out, then returned the refurb and bought exactly the same unit, but at the new full price?
 
So you got a refurb to try it out, then returned the refurb and bought exactly the same unit, but at the new full price?

Thanks for letting me know.

1. Will be getting the 2013 2.4 updated model
2. Got a 10% discount so is only $245 more than the refurb
3. I got 18 months interest free so can hang onto my cash for now.
 
2.3(4)/16/512.

Battery life is shortened with the 2.7 and the extra power would only be needed if you do tasks that utilize it such as video de/encoding, some gaming, etc.
 
Thanks for letting me know.

1. Will be getting the 2013 2.4 updated model
2. Got a 10% discount so is only $245 more than the refurb
3. I got 18 months interest free so can hang onto my cash for now.

Ah cool. Sorry I wasn't having a dig, just wondering.
 
I was actually considering the 2.8GHz upgrade to get the max spec and keep the system as long as possible!
Whats the difference in battery life? Is it drastic?

I routinely get the advertised 7 hours with my 2.7. Keep in mind modern CPUs only run at the maximum frequency when under heavy load, and scale down the rest of the time. Under normal usage scenarios the power draw and heat of both chips is going to be more or less equal.

You could find anecdotal evidence that says otherwise, but it's just that.

That said, by that same principle the people getting the most benefit are going to be the ones using Handbrake or running multiple VMs, etc. Day to day use is going to look pretty well the same.

I still have and use my early 2006 MBP with 1.83GHz Core Duo, the first Intel model. I got the base model, a $500 difference. I maxed out the RAM long ago, but never once have I been using it and thought 'damn, wish I had spent 500 bucks on the 2GHz CPU'.
 

I routinely get the advertised 7 hours with my 2.7. Keep in mind modern CPUs only run at the maximum frequency when under heavy load, and scale down the rest of the time. Under normal usage scenarios the power draw and heat of both chips is going to be more or less equal.

You could find anecdotal evidence that says otherwise, but it's just that.

That said, by that same principle the people getting the most benefit are going to be the ones using Handbrake or running multiple VMs, etc. Day to day use is going to look pretty well the same.

I still have and use my early 2006 MBP with 1.83GHz Core Duo, the first Intel model. I got the base model, a $500 difference. I maxed out the RAM long ago, but never once have I been using it and thought 'damn, wish I had spent 500 bucks on the 2GHz CPU'.

Thanks.
I'll be using it for video editing in Final Cut Pro X so was prepared to invest in the higher CPU with more cache etc, to help my render times. Seems like I may stick to the 2.7 rather then the 2.8 in that case, if the difference in heat etc is really that drastic!
 
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