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New Apple Trademark: 'XGrid'
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Well since the other thread is closed I'll post this link here. It looks like a company has already brought out a program called Xgrid, the company is Greetree technologies and the link to the press release (the only information about the program I could find on the site) is http://www.green-tree.com/homelinks.asp?page=pressroom .It's a database program sort of like Excel. Since another company has already used that name I'm thinking either that companies trademark has run out (?) or Apple either purchased the rights to that name from them or purchased the company. Or they could be completely unrelated. heh.
Oh yeah!
If I remember correctly, Apple has rights to use a specific high-power frequency band from the FCC (They bought the rights at nationwide auction or somehow got the frequency opened for their use back in the mid-90s).
Many speculated that Apple was launching a nationwide cellular network or wireless communication for the Newton.
It now appears that they are preparing to create just such a network for unknown devices- perhaps interlinking home Airport networks wirelessly nationwide.... Additional equipment required, of course.
Hmm. "We'll be kicking ass," Steve grinned.
If I remember correctly, Apple has rights to use a specific high-power frequency band from the FCC (They bought the rights at nationwide auction or somehow got the frequency opened for their use back in the mid-90s).
Many speculated that Apple was launching a nationwide cellular network or wireless communication for the Newton.
It now appears that they are preparing to create just such a network for unknown devices- perhaps interlinking home Airport networks wirelessly nationwide.... Additional equipment required, of course.
Hmm. "We'll be kicking ass," Steve grinned.
you guys are way off
It has something to do with servers hense the name starting with X. that's all I can say for now.
It has something to do with servers hense the name starting with X. that's all I can say for now.
Clustering
It sounds to me like the xServe clustering rumor we heard a few months ago- you could cluster multiple xServes to combine their power. Anyone else remember that?
It sounds to me like the xServe clustering rumor we heard a few months ago- you could cluster multiple xServes to combine their power. Anyone else remember that?
Well IBM has been talking about computing grids for a long time now.
Basically distributed computing doing one task.
Maybe Apple will implement something like that? Distributed computing network to handle large complex computing tasks. Get the users involved and maybe pay them something. So far none of the startup distributed computing companies go far enough to pay consistently for them borrowing your computer's idle time. A big company like Apple can make it happen probably much easier.
Basically distributed computing doing one task.
Maybe Apple will implement something like that? Distributed computing network to handle large complex computing tasks. Get the users involved and maybe pay them something. So far none of the startup distributed computing companies go far enough to pay consistently for them borrowing your computer's idle time. A big company like Apple can make it happen probably much easier.
Seems to me like it's some new way of communicating with and maintaining a server over the internet or another form of network.
If I didn't know better...
I'd say it sounds like an Apple branded router. Perhaps an enterprise level "airport base station". Can't think for the life of me why they'd want to play in Cisco's space, though.
I'd say it sounds like an Apple branded router. Perhaps an enterprise level "airport base station". Can't think for the life of me why they'd want to play in Cisco's space, though.
Three words: AUTOMATIC CLUSTERTING OF ALL TASKS.
Okay, that's five. However, I do believe that this is a feature that will ship with the next version of OS X Server. It'd be one of the last driving factors to buy a Mac.
Okay, that's five. However, I do believe that this is a feature that will ship with the next version of OS X Server. It'd be one of the last driving factors to buy a Mac.
The Grid
IBM, Sun, and quite a few other companies are working with the UK Govt on a thing called The Grid. It will be the most powerful distributed computing platform in the world (for a short time at least) and will be available to anybody who needs to rent lots of computing power - say for DNA analysis.
The most important bit is that no proprietry clients will be allowed. MS wanted to base their part on .NET meaning only other .NET clients could share CPU power. They have been told no
I think XGrid sounds like the Apple offering. My girlfriend works for EPSRC and mentioned Tony Hey had met with IBM, Apple, MS & Sun earlier this year.
Check out http://www.epsrc.ac.uk/ and do a search on Grid for more info.
IBM, Sun, and quite a few other companies are working with the UK Govt on a thing called The Grid. It will be the most powerful distributed computing platform in the world (for a short time at least) and will be available to anybody who needs to rent lots of computing power - say for DNA analysis.
The most important bit is that no proprietry clients will be allowed. MS wanted to base their part on .NET meaning only other .NET clients could share CPU power. They have been told no
I think XGrid sounds like the Apple offering. My girlfriend works for EPSRC and mentioned Tony Hey had met with IBM, Apple, MS & Sun earlier this year.
Check out http://www.epsrc.ac.uk/ and do a search on Grid for more info.
This was my same thought when I read this too. Right now the talk about grids is focused on the scientific community, but from everything I hear it is supposed to change the enterprise computing model in the coming years.
This completely blows my mind (in a good way). First Apple gets in the data center with the Xserve (Xraid, etc). Undoubtedly its a great machine and can handle web/mail/file serving etc... But imagine Apple on the (b)leading edge of enterprise computing with XGrid!
Of course, maybe this is an office or wireless something like others have conjectured. But if this is an enterprise focused application, one thing I have to say I am amazed at is how well Apple has been able to provide what both consumers and enterprises want (in the past couple months/year, at least). At least from a product point of view... I think everyone would like to see a number higher than 1.25 GHz on the specs of those products...
How about this idea?
What if this is a new .Mac service. In my dreams it could mean that Apple will allow people to "lease" time on a cluster of Xserve's. This would be awsome for thigs like Final Cut projects and big Photoshop jobs. Just a thought, but it would be very cool.
-Stu
What if this is a new .Mac service. In my dreams it could mean that Apple will allow people to "lease" time on a cluster of Xserve's. This would be awsome for thigs like Final Cut projects and big Photoshop jobs. Just a thought, but it would be very cool.
-Stu
Re: How about this idea?
...and maybe you could earn some credits towards your .mac account by letting them use your idle cpu cycles...When you buy a mac, you actually buy a distributed supercomputer
...and maybe you could earn some credits towards your .mac account by letting them use your idle cpu cycles...When you buy a mac, you actually buy a distributed supercomputer
Re: Re: How about this idea?
I don't care for that idea. Maybe it's just me though?
Originally posted by etoiles
...and maybe you could earn some credits towards your .mac account by letting them use your idle cpu cycles...When you buy a mac, you actually buy a distributed supercomputer
I don't care for that idea. Maybe it's just me though?
Re: Re: Re: How about this idea?
hey, you are right, 'selling' your cpu cycles won't really work, because you would need to run the actual apps...stupid me.
doh !
But it would be cool if it did work
Originally posted by Billicus
I don't care for that idea. Maybe it's just me though?
hey, you are right, 'selling' your cpu cycles won't really work, because you would need to run the actual apps...stupid me.
doh !
But it would be cool if it did work
XGrid/ Grid Applications
My thought is that Apple will announce an update on the 6th of November, could be at the Supercomputing 2002 in Baltimore (http://www.sc2002.org/) or it could be a totally separate non-announcing announcement updates on the Book's.
for the XGrid thing, i bet this is what it is. GRID 2002 "get-together", just exactly what the trademark's definition is (http://www.gridcomputing.org/grid2002).
My thought is that Apple will announce an update on the 6th of November, could be at the Supercomputing 2002 in Baltimore (http://www.sc2002.org/) or it could be a totally separate non-announcing announcement updates on the Book's.
for the XGrid thing, i bet this is what it is. GRID 2002 "get-together", just exactly what the trademark's definition is (http://www.gridcomputing.org/grid2002).
Re: If I didn't know better...
Because Cisco access points, although fantastically great products, are a pain in the rear to configure compared to Apple's Airport. If they only had Apple's ease of use, then they'd be worth the $600+
Originally posted by dernhelm
I'd say it sounds like an Apple branded router. Perhaps an enterprise level "airport base station". Can't think for the life of me why they'd want to play in Cisco's space, though.
Because Cisco access points, although fantastically great products, are a pain in the rear to configure compared to Apple's Airport. If they only had Apple's ease of use, then they'd be worth the $600+
Re: Re: Re: Re: How about this idea?
There is a type of Thing called "Niced Processes". They sit in the background and give priority to other cycles, therefor, use all the available power, but wont affect performance at all, much like the SETI @ Home / Folding@home projects
Originally posted by etoiles
hey, you are right, 'selling' your cpu cycles won't really work, because you would need to run the actual apps...stupid me.
doh !
But it would be cool if it did work
There is a type of Thing called "Niced Processes". They sit in the background and give priority to other cycles, therefor, use all the available power, but wont affect performance at all, much like the SETI @ Home / Folding@home projects
My money's on Xserve clustering. It seems the most obvious thing that name would describe, especially because it's something they so sorely need. I'm guessing operation over Gig.E using shared storage off one or more Xraids.
Did anyone notice the central word in the quote? It's not clustering, clustering is not even mentioned. The word of interest is "communication". For me, it reads like this:
XGrid
- rental, hire and leasing of communications apparatus
- providing access to electronic communication networks for the access to
--- electronic mail-boxes
--- electronic bulletin board services
--- electronic transmission of data and documents
via a global computer network (Internet) or other databases.
So, I think it's more the wireless access, maybe in big cities, where you just log in with your .Mac-account or the XGrid must know your Hardware Ethernet Adress to know who you are and to know where to send the bill. So you have a grid in wich you can move around and your computer keeps you online.
OT:
Or maybe it's not your computer, maybe it's your PDA ;-) ... no, no, I know, there will be no PDA from Apple ... just dreaming again. Yesterday I revived my Newton 100 - it's still working and it still "knows" my writing style. That was a great piece of technology. And I know, Ive can do it better.
XGrid
- rental, hire and leasing of communications apparatus
- providing access to electronic communication networks for the access to
--- electronic mail-boxes
--- electronic bulletin board services
--- electronic transmission of data and documents
via a global computer network (Internet) or other databases.
So, I think it's more the wireless access, maybe in big cities, where you just log in with your .Mac-account or the XGrid must know your Hardware Ethernet Adress to know who you are and to know where to send the bill. So you have a grid in wich you can move around and your computer keeps you online.
OT:
Or maybe it's not your computer, maybe it's your PDA ;-) ... no, no, I know, there will be no PDA from Apple ... just dreaming again. Yesterday I revived my Newton 100 - it's still working and it still "knows" my writing style. That was a great piece of technology. And I know, Ive can do it better.
