The ”new” AppleTV (2021) doesnt have a single ”new” feature. So my guess is that the outdated packaging is because their plan was to release this in early 2019/2020 and then do a proper AppleTV upgrade in 2021.Anyone find it strange that Apple is showing/promoting the discontinued HomePod on the back of their brand new Apple TV 4K?
Makes me wonder if the plan was different at some point...
Yeah I wonder if plans changed at some point... but in fairness, the new Apple TV does have some new (albeit lackluster) features: Higher frame rate support, HDMI 2.1, WiFi 6, and a new remote with a power button, a mute button, and improved navigation options.The ”new” AppleTV (2021) doesnt have a single ”new” feature. So my guess is that the outdated packaging is because their plan was to release this in early 2019/2020 and then do a proper AppleTV upgrade in 2021.
Sorry, I wasnt clear. 😅 I’m getting one so I’m not slamming it. My point was that Apple is a story teller with its product releases. Everything seems to fit, but this AppleTV just feels out of place In terms where it fits into Apple’s product line.Yeah I wonder if plans changed at some point... but in fairness, the new Apple TV does have some new (albeit lackluster) features: Higher frame rate support, HDMI 2.1, WiFi 6, and a new remote with a power button, a mute button, and improved navigation options.
Completely agree. But for the new remote, this probably would have been a "silent" upgrade.Sorry, I wasnt clear. 😅 I’m getting one so I’m not slamming it. My point was that Apple is a story teller with its product releases. Everything seems to fit, but this AppleTV just feels out of place In terms where it fits into Apple’s product line.
Like you pointed out, the box showcases their own audio products on the packaging but don’t support Spatial Audio? They push Apple Arcade yet put in a 3yr old A12? AirTags come out but no AirTag built into the easy-to-lose Remote?
If this came out in 2019 (or was half the price) then I’d say its not a big deal. But with Apple’s current direction with everything then this feels more like catch-up and corrections than a modern Apple product.
Agreed. There’s something uncharacteristically disjointed about Apple’s recent products. Not so much that the individual products are bad, but they seem to increasingly exist on their own islands. AirPod Max from 6 months ago doesn’t support lossless Apple Music. New Apple TV remote doesn’t support air tag Find My features that were announced at the very same event. No way to connect an iPad or MacBook to an iMac to use it as a monitor. Seems like a lot of lost opportunities.the box showcases their own audio products on the packaging but don’t support Spatial Audio? They push Apple Arcade yet put in a 3yr old A12? AirTags come out but no AirTag built into the easy-to-lose Remote?
Agreed. There’s something uncharacteristically disjointed about Apple’s recent products. Not so much that the individual products are bad, but they seem to increasingly exist on their own islands. AirPod Max from 6 months ago doesn’t support lossless Apple Music. New Apple TV remote doesn’t support air tag Find My features that were announced at the very same event. No way to connect an iPad or MacBook to an iMac to use it as a monitor. Seems like a lot of lost opportunities.
I don't consider that supporting lossless audio, so I agree with Apple. Especially since the hifi lossless goes all the way up to 192KHz sampling.Actually, they do support it, it was just bad wording by Apple because of a technicality that doesn´t affect the perceived sound quality.
From the Verge
So the natural question becomes... well, what are you hearing in that scenario? Apple tells The Verge that when you play a 24-bit / 48 kHz Apple Music lossless track from an iPhone into the AirPods Max using both the cable and Lightning dongle, the audio is converted to analog and then re-digitized to 24-bit / 48 kHz. That re-digitization step is the reason that Apple can’t say you’re hearing pure lossless audio; it’s not an identical match to the source.
Is it still going to sound very good? Almost certainly. The AirPods Max sound exceptional — even with AAC over Bluetooth, and plugging in can make the experience richer. But if you’re a stickler for the technical details, this is why the AirPods Max can’t pull off lossless audio in the truest sense. It also leaves Apple in an awkward spot where other high-end headphones that do support digital audio when hard wired — over USB-C, for example — could deliver the full lossless audio that the AirPods Max can’t.
The ”new” AppleTV (2021) doesnt have a single ”new” feature. So my guess is that the outdated packaging is because their plan was to release this in early 2019/2020 and then do a proper AppleTV upgrade in 2021.
What do you want in there? A A14? How do you think that would impact price? It's not like anything on the Apple Arcade even pushes a A12, my A10 ATV runs everything fine. Apple isn't positioning this to compete with a PS5 ox Xbox Series X w/ Arcade (at least in the near future). Takes a lot more than to pump out some hardware to be a player in console market.Sorry, I wasnt clear. 😅 I’m getting one so I’m not slamming it. My point was that Apple is a story teller with its product releases. Everything seems to fit, but this AppleTV just feels out of place In terms where it fits into Apple’s product line.
Like you pointed out, the box showcases their own audio products on the packaging but don’t support Spatial Audio? They push Apple Arcade yet put in a 3yr old A12? AirTags come out but no AirTag built into the easy-to-lose Remote?
If this came out in 2019 (or was half the price) then I’d say its not a big deal. But with Apple’s current direction with everything then this feels more like catch-up and corrections than a modern Apple product.
Fair enough.I don't consider that supporting lossless audio, so I agree with Apple. Especially since the hifi lossless goes all the way up to 192KHz sampling.
Slight disagreement: If the recording is very good 24 bits per sample has an audible impact for me granted I am lucky to have rather sensitive hearing. But it's also nice to have more resolution and sample rate since who knows what new machine learning stuff is going to come out where the computer program can take advantage of these for human hearing inaudible information.Fair enough.
PD: More than 16/44 is snake oil, don´t know why Apple jumped in the audiophile mumbo jumbo bandwagon by offering hi res audio. 16/44 is at the limit of the human ear capabilities.
Yeah, a lot of people don't realize this.Fair enough.
PD: More than 16/44 is snake oil, don´t know why Apple jumped in the audiophile mumbo jumbo bandwagon by offering hi res audio. 16/44 is at the limit of the human ear capabilities.