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The problem is it all revolves around Siri and she’s absolutely terrible. I don’t know how many times I’ve told her to turn the lights to 100%, but she turns them off. That’s just one example of many
 
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The problem is it all revolves around Siri and she’s absolutely terrible. I don’t know how many times I’ve told her to turn the lights to 100%, but she turns them off. That’s just one example of many
Completely agree. It’s the bane of HomeKit’s existence.

Just this morning.
-Hey Siri, stop playing in Colton’s Room.
-Sorry, I can’t find a speaker like that in Colton’s room.

🤦‍♂️

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Completely agree. It’s the bane of HomeKit’s existence.

Just this morning.
-Hey Siri, stop playing in Colton’s Room.
-Sorry, I can’t find a speaker like that in Colton’s room.

🤦‍♂️

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Want to hear something funny. I click the button on my watch and said Hey Siri set alarm for 9 PM. Siri said I don’t have the alarm app installed 😂😂😂
 
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Question for you guys, do you think the top brass at Apple genuinely in real life use HomeKit and Siri?

I don't think they do because if they really did use it, I don't think it would be the complete and utter cluster **** that it is and has been, actually, for years. It is hard to argue against the fact it gets worse every single year without fail.
 
Question for you guys, do you think the top brass at Apple genuinely in real life use HomeKit and Siri?

I don't think they do because if they really did use it, I don't think it would be the complete and utter cluster **** that it is and has been, actually, for years. It is hard to argue against the fact it gets worse every single year without fail.
I don’t think they use HomeKit however, what’s confusing is they definitely use iPhones and iOS has been steaming garbage lately too.
 
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I was excited to update to this new architecture until I realized that the outdated iPads I had been repurposing over the years to wall dashboards would prevent me from updating. They’d all become obsolete.

I think I’ve figured out a workaround. Please correct me if I’m wrong but the iPads need to be updated to 16.2 because they need to control HomeKit hubs like AppleTVs and HomePod Minis. What if instead of the Home app on my wall iPads, I run the Phillips Hue app. That should control the lights via the Hue Hub directly, not via HomeKit. Correct?
 
I was excited to update to this new architecture until I realized that the outdated iPads I had been repurposing over the years to wall dashboards would prevent me from updating. They’d all become obsolete.

I think I’ve figured out a workaround. Please correct me if I’m wrong but the iPads need to be updated to 16.2 because they need to control HomeKit hubs like AppleTVs and HomePod Minis. What if instead of the Home app on my wall iPads, I run the Phillips Hue app. That should control the lights via the Hue Hub directly, not via HomeKit. Correct?
Yea that’s correct. The Hue app can control the Hue lights irrespective of the Home app but the change will reflect in the Home app.
 
“Apple is currently testing a beta version of iOS that promises to improve the speed and performance of HomeKit accessories.”

In Applespeak does that mean HomeKit might actually work?
That sounds like the new HomeKit architecture that’s currently in beta in iOS 16.2. The Big Bang we’ve all been waiting for lol. Whether it lives up to hype is another story. Apple’s promises mean nothing to me. Advertising something to work a certain way (like at major events, e.g. WWDC) is supposed to be a promise and so far it’s been nothing but lies.

“This HomePod Mini can control your HomeKit smart home!”

Ha! In your dreams.
 
Yea that’s correct. The Hue app can control the Hue lights irrespective of the Home app but the change will reflect in the Home app.
Hit another roadblock. The Hue App itself only works on iOS 13+. First gen iPad Airs only go to iOS 12. Fortunately there are a lot of third party Hue controller apps. Anyone have recommendations Which ones I should try?
 
Hit another roadblock. The Hue App itself only works on iOS 13+. First gen iPad Airs only go to iOS 12. Fortunately there are a lot of third party Hue controller apps. Anyone have recommendations Which ones I should try?
Oh I didn’t realize they stopped supporting the app on older iOS versions.

If you go in the Hue app and click on “Explore” at the bottom, then under “Friends of Hue” it says “Apps We Like.” That has all the third party apps that Hue themselves recommend. I believe iConnectHue was one of the earlier ones so they’ve been in the game for a while.
 
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Both HomeKit and Alexa systems suck. I usually just open an app for either and select an action or routine I've already set up because voice commands are just too unreliable on both of those systems. Mostly I have routines set up to automatically set various lighting to specific parameters at certain times of the day and night, and that works fairly well with Alexa. I don't have many HomeKit devices yet, and given the issues probably won't expand them until Matters seems to be proven to work correctly.

Siri is stupid, and Alexa is argumentative and stubborn, and she wants to shove ads in your face!
 
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Both HomeKit and Alexa systems suck. I usually just open an app for either and select an action or routine I've already set up because voice commands are just too unreliable on both of those systems. Mostly I have routines set up to automatically set various lighting to specific parameters at certain times of the day and night, and that works fairly well with Alexa. I don't have many HomeKit devices yet, and given the issues probably won't expand them until Matters seems to be proven to work correctly.

Siri is stupid, and Alexa is argumentative and stubborn, and she wants to shove ads in your face!

I don't know your setup but Siri works well for me. I have a HomePod in each room. I set up a small number of scenes related to activities I routinely engage in like Good morning, cooking, watch TV, Work, Relax, Get ready for bed, and Good night. These have lights, TVs, speakers, smart plugs and the thermostat associated with them and some include Apple Music or Apple TV.

I go around the house and casually ask for those things and she always understands them. Outside of those scenes, if I need lights turned on or shut off, I simply ask to "turn on/off the lights" and Siri knows which room I'm in and turns on/off the appropriate lights.

I also have time based automations as well as activity based ones. If there's something in my work schedule, Shortcuts will turn on my Work scene if I'm home and it's not already on. When the sun sets, if I have nothing in my work schedule, my Relax scene kicks in.

Having devices outside of the HomeKit ecosystem will obviously complicate things and produce unexpected results. I just made sure to get HomeKit devices which also work with Alexa since I have an Echo Show in the Bedroom and Bathroom, as a bedside clock and getting ready in the morning screen, respectively.

Siri doesn't have to be that smart, it's a matter of setting up your home for how you live and how you'd like your home to act. Siri does make smart suggestions and understands natural language so the commands aren't too rigid. I've used this setup for years and aside from the occasional HomeKit bugs and delays in responding (almost always network issues), I've been pretty happy. The downside of this working so well for me is that I go to other people's houses and talk to the walls.
 
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