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What do you think they will be that the current iPhone X doesn't have already?
 
I expect a new, larger sensor this year, and the improvements that come with it. Though I was disappointed last year, I have my fingers crossed this year
 
Don't know about the X but I have the 8 and picture quality at night is awful. The other day I tried my brother's Note 9 at night and it's amazing, it captures much more light. Yes I am aware it's a dual camera and so on but I was expecting an €829 iPhone camera to have better quality in low light conditions. Is it the same on the X? Definitely a larger sensor would improve that. My decision to purchase the XS will largely depend on the camera improvements they introduce (or not).
 
I have a feeling it’ll be able to record 4K at 120fps.

Maybe not, but I reckon the possibility is quite high.

I would actually say that is unlikely.

Depending on subsampling playback devices would be limited due to bandwidth requirements of HDMI 2.1. Using 4.2.0 we’d see a degradation in image quality.
 
I would actually say that is unlikely.

Depending on subsampling playback devices would be limited due to bandwidth requirements of HDMI 2.1. Using 4.2.0 we’d see a degradation in image quality.
Playback on the actual device? Would look a lot sharper compared to the current 1080p 120fps.
 
Don't know about the X but I have the 8 and picture quality at night is awful. The other day I tried my brother's Note 9 at night and it's amazing, it captures much more light. Yes I am aware it's a dual camera and so on but I was expecting an €829 iPhone camera to have better quality in low light conditions. Is it the same on the X? Definitely a larger sensor would improve that. My decision to purchase the XS will largely depend on the camera improvements they introduce (or not).
I completely agree with you. I have the 8 too, and picture quality at night leaves a lot to be desired. It takes a lot of time to focus and even then images turn out to be soft. The same can be said about the X too as the 8 and the X have the same main camera. For normal photos, dual cameras don't help, as the second camera has worse optics and is mainly used for 2x zoom and potraits. Only the main f1.8 aperture camera is used at night. The Note 9 is so much faster at focusing and much better at night. Mainly because of the large sensor and wider aperture
 
Playback on the actual device? Would look a lot sharper compared to the current 1080p 120fps.

Current hardware in peoples houses can't play 4k@120hz without degrading the color data from what it currently is today. To experience 4k@120hz without compromise requires HDMI version 2.1 which no one has.
 
Current hardware in peoples houses can't play 4k@120hz without degrading the color data from what it currently is today. To experience 4k@120hz without compromise requires HDMI version 2.1 which no one has.
I understand that.
But I said playback on the actual device, as in the iPhone itself.

Playing back 1080p recorded on an iPhone at 120 or 240fps at the moment doesn’t look great. It’s not that sharp and loses detail compared to 4K playback on the iPhone.

I also understand this might not even be implemented but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.
 
I hope Apple gets the camera right on this release coming up. I agree low light shots are horrendous and is the cameras weakest point.
 
I understand that.
But I said playback on the actual device, as in the iPhone itself.

Playing back 1080p recorded on an iPhone at 120 or 240fps at the moment doesn’t look great. It’s not that sharp and loses detail compared to 4K playback on the iPhone.

I also understand this might not even be implemented but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was.

I see, sorry about that I thought you were asking about actual playback devices.

I also thought you meant standard record mode having a real time playback of 4k@120fps however you are talking about slow mo correct? Slow mo plays back at 30fps.

I would still say highly unlikely. Keep in mind cameras capable of recording 4k@120hz are thousands of dollars.

However there are always improvements that can be made. Typically when encoding a video the slower your encode preset is the better the video quality is. Cameras don't have that luxury, it needs to process the data at 120/240hz. So upgrading the encoder could make your 1080p slow motion vids look better without effecting the resolution at all.
 
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4K live photos using the HEVC compression. Using 4K live photos will allow for 8mp key photos and live effects. It would be similar to 4K photo modes on mirrorless cameras.

A 1/2.3 sensor for the wide-angle camera with f1.7 aperture.
A 1/3 sensor for the telephoto camera with f2.0 aperture.
 
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