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New Dell U2725QE
Finally, a monitor that meets all my expectations has been made! Until now, I refrained from buying a monitor because something always felt missing. But I think I’ll go for this one. After the fiasco of the U2723QE introduced in 2023—where even in videos, the IPS glow was obvious—it seems they’ve addressed those issues this time.

Key Features:​

  • 27-inch, 4K, 120Hz display
  • Minimum 140W charging via Type-C
  • Acts as a USB hub managed entirely through a single Type-C connection, unlike most monitors that require an additional USB-B port.
  • 3000:1 contrast ratio
  • No IPS glow (imo)
  • KVM switch
  • Also, this monitor officially recognized as the world's first 4K monitor with the highest eye comfort certification
Source:
 
As someone who needs a new work monitor that is also good for watching movies, I’ll be keeping an eye on this one.

The 3000:1 contrast ratio interests me greatly, because that’s about the bare minimum you need to have a decent movie watching experience.

That being said, a number of IPS black 2000:1 contrast ratio monitors ended up being 1500:1 in real life usage, so I’m definitely skeptical on whether this will actually be 3000:1.
 
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Yeah, glad to see this was finally announced. I’ve been watching for 3-4 months. I have 2 U2722DE’s which are great overall, but only QHD and 60Hz. I could have gotten one of the newer models at QHD and 120Hz or 4K and 60Hz, but either was a trade off and the ports weren’t as good for 2 monitors. Now I get all the ports I wanted, 4K, and 120Hz. Hard to beat.

And by the ports, I mean when using 2 monitors with only one cable to the laptop, older USB-C hub monitors like my current model required a DisplayPort cable from monitor 1 to 2, AND to activate the USB in monitor 2 I needed a second USB cable going from monitor 1 to 2 which wasted USB ports on both monitors and created more cable clutter on the desk setup. Now they are giving an extra USB so to my knowledge you can carry the display AND USB from monitor 1 to 2 in one cable, freeing up more ports and less clutter between the monitors. Pretty sweet. I plan to get 2 of them soon.
 
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I would have been all over this 2-3 years ago, but for me 5K2K ultrawide is the new hotness for any refreshes I'm doing.
Still, a fantastic option for a productivity-first mainstream monitor.

PS. IPS glow is vastly overblown and it's only an issue if you're working in your mom's basement or swapping constantly to and from an OLED🤡
 
New Dell U2725QE
Finally, a monitor that meets all my expectations has been made! Until now, I refrained from buying a monitor because something always felt missing. But I think I’ll go for this one. After the fiasco of the U2723QE introduced in 2023—where even in videos, the IPS glow was obvious—it seems they’ve addressed those issues this time.

Key Features:​

  • 27-inch, 4K, 120Hz display
  • Minimum 140W charging via Type-C
  • Acts as a USB hub managed entirely through a single Type-C connection, unlike most monitors that require an additional USB-B port.
  • 3000:1 contrast ratio
  • No IPS glow (imo)
  • KVM switch
  • Also, this monitor officially recognized as the world's first 4K monitor with the highest eye comfort certification
Source:
This monitor looks good, an improved version of the 2723QE. But no IPS glow? How do you know? The only way i know to reduce the glow significantly is by using an atw polarizer. It is not one of its features for the new monitor.
 
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Until now, I refrained from buying a monitor because something always felt missing.
Somethings always missing...:D

IIRC, this new offering is priced around $700 and adding 120-Hz refresh rate to 4K resolution and IPS Black for contrast in a strong brand name display is a welcome addition to the market!

That said, I foresee 2 competitors that will lead decision-makings hand-wringing a lot of 2025, one Dell, one not and each priced around $800.

The roughly $800 "Dell 32 Plus 4K QD-OLED Monitor (S3225QC) is the world’s first QD-OLED Monitor with AI-enhanced 3D Spatial Sound4" is 4K and 120-Hz but USB-C, not Thunderbolt, if I read correctly. Since the Apple Studio Display is lauded in part for its spatial audio, I'd like to see what reviewers have to say about this Dell. It would push you to 32", and in another thread someone seemed to indicate OLED (that was before this was announced) wasn't as good with sharp text (but it's strong on contrast and loved by gamers), but it might have better sound.

The roughly $800 ASUS ProArt PA27JCV 27" 5K is supposed to have good contrast for an IPS panel. You get 60-Hz refresh and reviewers weren't impressed with the speakers, IIRC, it's USB-C not Thunderbolt, but...it's that 'retina-class' resolution often recommended for Macs.

So if you're display shopping in the $700-800 range (+ tax and/or shipping perhaps), decide between 4K 120-Hz Thunderbolt 4 and 5K 60-Hz USB-C. If you are okay with 4K and don't mind getting a 27" or 32" display, then do you want IPS and Thunderbolt or OLED and USB-C?

On the other hand, the old U2723QE (27", 4K, 60-Hz, IPS Black) is around $480+ IIRC, when I checked recently.

What about the rest of you? Which would you pick?
 
Yeah, glad to see this was finally announced. I’ve been watching for 3-4 months. I have 2 U2722DE’s which are great overall, but only QHD and 60Hz. I could have gotten one of the newer models at QHD and 120Hz or 4K and 60Hz, but either was a trade off and the ports weren’t as good for 2 monitors. Now I get all the ports I wanted, 4K, and 120Hz. Hard to beat.

And by the ports, I mean when using 2 monitors with only one cable to the laptop, older USB-C hub monitors like my current model required a DisplayPort cable from monitor 1 to 2, AND to activate the USB in monitor 2 I needed a second USB cable going from monitor 1 to 2 which wasted USB ports on both monitors and created more cable clutter on the desk setup. Now they are giving an extra USB so to my knowledge you can carry the display AND USB from monitor 1 to 2 in one cable, freeing up more ports and less clutter between the monitors. Pretty sweet. I plan to get 2 of them soon.
I don't think it's going to work the way you're describing.

You're thinking that there's two USB-C upstream ports that support DP alt mode? As in, two ports where you can plug in a single USB-C cable to your laptop and get video, audio, display and full KVM usage?

I think it's still one.

And for the second computer you'd need to connect via DP AND USB-C upstream.

I'd certainly be happy if you were right, however.
 
I''m waiting for this, I have already two dell monitors: S2721DS and U2723QE and they have been great!
 
I don't think it's going to work the way you're describing.

You're thinking that there's two USB-C upstream ports that support DP alt mode? As in, two ports where you can plug in a single USB-C cable to your laptop and get video, audio, display and full KVM usage?

I think it's still one.

And for the second computer you'd need to connect via DP AND USB-C upstream.

I'd certainly be happy if you were right, however.
I guess I missed this comment. My current setup is 2 U2722DEs.

The U2722DE has the following for ports:

  • HDMI
  • DP In
  • USB-C Video/Data (90W Charging)
  • DP Out
  • USB-C upstream
  • 4 USB-A
  • USB-C downstream

My criteria for considering this setup acceptable is that:

1. I have only one cable to the laptop total
2. My speakers plug into one of the monitors and not the laptop
3. All USB ports on each monitor are usable so I don't have to remember what works and what doesn't

In order to make this work, I had to do the following:

1. One cable from the laptop USB-C main power/data port to the video + data port on Monitor #1.
2. In order to get video on the second monitor, I had to run a DP cable from DP Out on Monitor #1, to DP In on Monitor #2. Using the USB-C ports for anything video related on Monitor #2 didn't work.
3. To get any USB functionality out of Monitor #2, I had to run a cable from any USB-A port on Monitor #1, to the "USB-C upstream" port on Monitor #2, which then activated all of those USB ports on that monitor.
4. To plug in the 3.5mm aux for my speakers, it had to go to Monitor #2, because the 3.5mm aux jacks on the U2722DE are "DisplayPort audio only". So the aux jack doesn't become active until the monitor it's on has something coming in via DisplayPort. Since Monitor #1 is only receiving a USB-C input from the laptop, that meant I had to go to Monitor #2.

The U2725QE should have basically the same ports as the U2724DE, which is the latest QHD 27" monitor available for purchase today. That monitor has:

  • HDMI
  • DP In
  • DP Out
  • TB4 Downstream (USB-C)
  • TB4 Upstream (USB-C) (90W charging)
  • USB-C upstream
  • 4 USB-A
  • USB-C downstream
I am pretty certain that now with the TB4 upstream and downstream ports, I can do it like the following:

  • USB-C cable from Laptop Port to Monitor #1 TB4 upstream (charging port)
  • USB-C cable from Monitor #1 TB4 downstream to Monitor #2 TB4 upstream
  • All audio and USB function properly

I know for sure that based on the daisy chain diagrams in the U2724DE user guide, I will be able to hook it up like mentioned above to get video across everything. However, I'm not sure if the audio jack will work in either monitor with this setup or not. I am hopeful with the USB-C port now being called TB4, that maybe, just maybe, audio will now work at the 3.5mm jack without doing anything special. Otherwise, yes, I will need to run the extra DP cable to power up the audio jack.

With these new ports being called TB4, I am hopeful they will be a bit faster than my current monitor ports as well. The speed can be quite hit or miss. Nothing like USB 2.0 slow, but definitely a bit slower than I expect, and the second monitor seems slower than the 1st. Hopefully some things improve, but we will see. Still waiting on them to release.
 
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I too am waiting for this monitor but with the following requirements. I want to PbP on the monitor using a Lenovo p14s(intel) gen 5 thinkpad and M1(max)MacBook Pro. I have yet to buy a, but will after I know the monitor actually works, a Logitech MX Keys/MX Master mouse (as on the dell video it shows a USB dongle with a wireless setup). I hope I don't have to install Logi Flow, but instead use DDM on both computers working with the U2725QE. The videos are quite convincing it would all work. Your thoughts? (I sure wish I could pre-order the Dell!)
 
After trying some IPS 4k gaming monitors, such as the Dough Spectrum One, and getting tired of the iPS glow, I’ve decided that this next-generation IPS Black monitor from Dell is going to be my go to.

Both for my Mac Mini, and my PS5. Hopefully it will perform well enough with games, thanks to the new 120Hz screen. Although, sadly, I’m not sure if it will have AMD FreeSync Premium Pro or even basic VRR. Which would be a pity. But the IPS glow is unbearable in black screens.

It’s funny because my previous monitor, which I’ve been using for almost 17 years, is also a Dell. And probably I’ll end up getting another one shortly.

Another thing that worries me is the matte finish on the display, which distorts colors and takes away the 4K crispness other glossy monitors have.
 
Monitor is finally available for purchase. I noticed they uploaded support documents today and yesterday. The monitor just went live within the last hour. $699 as stated.
 
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I’m eager to see the first reviews because, even tho it is not a gaming monitor, it could have a decent response time for a PS5 120Hz monitor…

If anyone encounters the first reviews (video or text, I don’t care), please share them here!
 
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There are some reviews but none is saying anything about the IPS glow in the dark nor the exact response times. I like the 32 inch variant as I already have the first gen of it but then again for gaming I got the P27UCDM so might better to skip this all together however I love the higher refresh rate of 120HZ makes desktop stuff just more smooth.
 
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There are some reviews but none is saying anything about the IPS glow in the dark nor the exact response times. I like the 32 inch variant as I already have the first gen of it but then again for gaming I got the P27UCDM so might better to skip this all together however I love the higher refresh rate of 120HZ makes desktop stuff just more smooth.
Yeah, I found that frustrating TBH. No review so far mentions those things.

I’m very torn apart between the Alienware AW2725QF and the Ultrasharp U2725QE, and maybe I’ll end up purchasing both at the same time and comparing them side to side… we’ll see…
 
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Populus wrote:
"Nah, I’m not interested in OLED."

Hmmm...
Could you elaborate as to why not?

Whenever I visit the local BJs to pick up a few things, I can't help but stop and admire the LG and Samsung 65" OLED tvs (which are running 4k demo loops).

Literally NO COMPARISON between these and "regular" LED tvs.
The clarity and brilliance is astounding.
Even for someone with "old eyes" like me.

Why wouldn't this "translate" also to computer displays?
 
Populus wrote:
"Nah, I’m not interested in OLED."

Hmmm...
Could you elaborate as to why not?

Whenever I visit the local BJs to pick up a few things, I can't help but stop and admire the LG and Samsung 65" OLED tvs (which are running 4k demo loops).

Literally NO COMPARISON between these and "regular" LED tvs.
The clarity and brilliance is astounding.
Even for someone with "old eyes" like me.

Why wouldn't this "translate" also to computer displays?
For work, OLED isn't great for longevity. I use my Mac monitors for work exclusively, so apps like WebEx, Outlook just sit on the screen all day and will eventually get image retention/burn-in. Modern OLED's have evolved a lot and gotten much better, but if you want to use a monitor for years and years then IPS is still the way to go. I do have a 32" 4k OLED gaming monitor for my gaming setup and its incredible, just not suited to my Mac usage.

For TV's, I think OLED makes sense in just about every situation as long as the budget allows.
 
Thanks for the comments, Dave.

The Alienware/Dell AW2725Q mentioned above is claimed to have anti-burn-in technology:

Aside from the dangers of burn-in, what ELSE is the problem with OLED for a general-purpose home display?

I was thinking of something like this to go along with an m4 Mini...
 
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