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New harddrive, wouldnt boot

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peppz

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Feb 13, 2004
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Sweden /Luleå
Hello.
First of all i hope you excause my bad english, hope you understand me anyway. I have a 12gb toschiba harddrive that i want to install in my powerbook g3 wallstreet. Well, i have installed it already but the problem is that it i cant boot from the drive. I have tryed installing os 9.2.1 by starting from the cd and i can see the drive, initialize it and partion it and even install. But when i reboot i just get a small floppydisc on the screen, witch means that it cant read the drive.. I have tryed the harddrive in my ibook g3 300 to with the same problem..
The drive is a toshiba MK1214GAP
please help me

/Robert
Sweden
 
hard drive

hi

can u try this toshiba harddrive via a usb to ide cable to see if any system reconzises the hard disk ?

also can u hear the hard disk spin ?

and are u sure ur powerbook and ibook can accept this drive ?

need to know more specific details !

sorry

p.s try booting up from a hardware test cd if u have one and see what happens if the drive shows or not !
 
Gokhan said:
hi

can u try this toshiba harddrive via a usb to ide cable to see if any system reconzises the hard disk ?

also can u hear the hard disk spin ?

and are u sure ur powerbook and ibook can accept this drive ?

need to know more specific details !

sorry

p.s try booting up from a hardware test cd if u have one and see what happens if the drive shows or not !
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I dont have a cable :(

Yes it spinns.

Im not sure if the ibook/powerbooks likes this drive, but i have read on the internet and i have seen that many people is using this drive in their Macs... if they got a wallstreet i havent checked..

No i dont have a hardwaretest cd :(
But the installers can see the disc so i guess thats that it shows.
 
unusal

unusual try zapping ur pram hold control kye & option key and p+r all at the same time and start up and let the machine chime 4 times and let go and if no sucess reset-nvram from open firmware control key and option key and o+f key hold at same time when starting up and see if that sorts it !
so osx is installed on the drive right ?

but it just wont boot correct ?
 
Gokhan said:
unusual try zapping ur pram hold control kye & option key and p+r all at the same time and start up and let the machine chime 4 times and let go and if no sucess reset-nvram from open firmware control key and option key and o+f key hold at same time when starting up and see if that sorts it !
so osx is installed on the drive right ?

but it just wont boot correct ?
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I have tryed that now with no result.
the os is os 9.2.1.
 
Reset the PMU, strange things happen when you reset that. Go to apples website and look up how to do it. Actually I think its... (where did I put that thread they should put as a sticky for these commands) SHIFT+CONTROL+FN+POWER KEY = REST PMU!!!

That may help cause it may adjust the power for the HDD. I dunno.. worth a shot.
 
slooksterPSV said:
Reset the PMU, strange things happen when you reset that. Go to apples website and look up how to do it. Actually I think its... (where did I put that thread they should put as a sticky for these commands) SHIFT+CONTROL+FN+POWER KEY = REST PMU!!!

That may help cause it may adjust the power for the HDD. I dunno.. worth a shot.
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Tryed that to... no result :(
 
Just to make sure...

I have a toshiba 10gb with no issues in my WS.

Keep in mind the Wallstreet will only install an OS from a partition which is less than 8gb. The OS has to be installed in that first partition of that HD.

You can clone an OS install to a different partition and then boot from it, but you still have to do the original install within the first 8gb.

Hope this helps....
 
What are the keys for changing the boot mode or going to the screen to choose the boot drive?

Did you format the drive so that it made a Master Boot Record, and partition it and that?
 
RGunner said:
I have a toshiba 10gb with no issues in my WS.

Keep in mind the Wallstreet will only install an OS from a partition which is less than 8gb. The OS has to be installed in that first partition of that HD.

You can clone an OS install to a different partition and then boot from it, but you still have to do the original install within the first 8gb.

Hope this helps....
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You know he probably has it right and we're all trying to help him out w/o taking this into consideration. Yeah cause with Mac OS 9, I think my drives were cut in 2, one for the OS 9 partitoin and one for just other things. I don't remember.... If that one seller who I bought my PB from comes in here, let us know.
 
slooksterPSV said:
What are the keys for changing the boot mode or going to the screen to choose the boot drive?

Did you format the drive so that it made a Master Boot Record, and partition it and that?
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I made 2 partitions om about 6gb each.
Do i have to put a master boot record manually?
Doesnt it do that when i format the drive?
 
slooksterPSV said:
You have to give it a parition type, like HFS+ Extended or that.. I know that much.
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Intresting, thats maybe the problem then..
Anyone knows more about that?
Do i need som system files too maybe?
 
You need to format it and set the partition type to HFS+ or HFS+ Extended or that. - I'll see if I can find how you do that during the installation. - Run Disk Utility or... whats it called... Disk First Aid, it should be somewhere on the CD.
 
slooksterPSV said:
You need to format it and set the partition type to HFS+ or HFS+ Extended or that. - I'll see if I can find how you do that during the installation. - Run Disk Utility or... whats it called... Disk First Aid, it should be somewhere on the CD.
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Ok. thanks.
 
slooksterPSV said:
You need to format it and set the partition type to HFS+ or HFS+ Extended or that. - I'll see if I can find how you do that during the installation. - Run Disk Utility or... whats it called... Disk First Aid, it should be somewhere on the CD.
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HFS+ and HFS Extended are one and the same
HFS+ is used in OS 8.1 through to today, but in Panther it gained journaling
HFS came before OS 8, aka, Systems 2 through 7
MFS was used in System one

You need to format it with HFS+ or HFS Extended, whatever you can choose. And try two partitions, two 6GB. (It is NOT 8GB but rather 8 GiB, so its around 7.4 GB, and I think that only effects OS X. Anyway, to be safe, make your max size 7 GB)
 
Mechcozmo said:
HFS+ and HFS Extended are one and the same
HFS+ is used in OS 8.1 through to today, but in Panther it gained journaling
HFS came before OS 8, aka, Systems 2 through 7
MFS was used in System one

You need to format it with HFS+ or HFS Extended, whatever you can choose. And try two partitions, two 6GB. (It is NOT 8GB but rather 8 GiB, so its around 7.4 GB, and I think that only effects OS X. Anyway, to be safe, make your max size 7 GB)
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HFS+ and HFS+ extended is MacOS and MacOS Extended in Diskutility?
 
I give up... I try to install panther onthe old harddrive instead...
But now i have some other probelms.
I will start a new tread about it.

Thaks for all the answers anyway!
 
this combination should work....do not give up

you mentioned Panther.. Panther will not install natively on a Wallstreet. You must use Xpostfacto or SonnetX to install Panther.

Jaguar 10.2 is the highest OS officially supported by Apple on a Wallstreet.

YOU should be able to easily install OS9.1 or 9.2 and it must be within the first 8gb (7.5GB) if you do not want to do the math.
 
RGunner said:
you mentioned Panther.. Panther will not install natively on a Wallstreet. You must use Xpostfacto or SonnetX to install Panther.

Jaguar 10.2 is the highest OS officially supported by Apple on a Wallstreet.

YOU should be able to easily install OS9.1 or 9.2 and it must be within the first 8gb (7.5GB) if you do not want to do the math.
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Yes, i know but people seems to have installed it with 96mb ram.
read a bit down on this link:

http://www.macforumz.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=125884&wallstreet+panther

I have read on some other places too about that.

my new thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/103859/
 
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