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maflynn

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Its been 15 years, almost to the day, since I last purchased Mac Mini - I hadn't realized it's been that long, but I'm once again the owner of a Mac Mini - M4 Pro flavor.

As noted in my other thread, I was debating a number of configurations. After careful analysis I felt that the M4 Pro was providing the best bang for my buck, in terms of providing better ram, storage, cpu cores and gpu cores. YMMV but for me I think the M4 Pro offered a lot including peace of mind.

Here's how the Cinebench 2024 numbers stack up; My PC (AMD 3700X/RX7800XT) vs. M4 Pro Mini. All is good on the CPU side, the M4 is blowing the doors off the CPU in both mult-core and single core. GPU is a bit surprising, as the RX7800 XT is mid-tier (equivalent to a 4070) released in 2023 - maybe upper mid-tier

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The good:
Performance, the environment is snappy, fast computer, love the integration with my iPhone

The bad:
Temps, I knew this going in, but if I push the mini hard, I'm looking at 80c, I've downloaded and I'm using Macs fan control - all is good now on that front.

The ugly:
Games - I don't play a lot of high end games, my favorite go to game is Fallout 76. Playing that on my M1 MBP (crossover), it was a bit jittery and laggy, I naturally thought with the better CPU/GPU of the M4 things would be good. That game is unplayable on my mini as well. Its not the end of the world, but its disappointing. I think some apple fans over-state how well Macs do in gaming. Naturally playing a game natively the experience will be better then in crossover and/or parallels, but gaming still is Apple's weakest link on the Mac platform.

The verdict, its a great computer, so happy that I got it, makes life a lot easier.
 
Foremost: Yay! Enjoy!

The bad:
Temps, I knew this going in, but if I push the mini hard, I'm looking at 80c, I've downloaded and I'm using Macs fan control - all is good now on that front.
Don’t worry about temps in regard to whether they’re harmful to the system. They aren’t (period). I feel the urge to bring this up every time because it’s one of the many aspects misconstrued and exaggerated by a lot of PC enthusiasts and “gamers.” With that said, if you’re willing to sacrifice some audible performance for a little more component cooling, that’s fine. On my Macs, I’ve dabbled ever so slightly but ulimtaly leave them to Apple’s whim. I haven’t had any problems.

On my PCs... The SFF is okay at stock fan curves/algorithms. Honestly, not a lot of adjustment room, so to speak. For the big rig with dual GPUs — well, technically triple if you count the CPU’s IGPU — I’ve settled on an 80% max fan speed. That limit provides enough airflow so that GPU and other smaller fans don’t need to spin up to an obvious, obnoxious audible pitch (distinctive versus the “whirr” of the 180/140mm case fans) while helping a little to tame the overall decibel level. Basically, tuning the cooling system has definitely notable effects.

The ugly:
Games - I don't play a lot of high end games, my favorite go to game is Fallout 76. Playing that on my M1 MBP (crossover), it was a bit jittery and laggy, I naturally thought with the better CPU/GPU of the M4 things would be good. That game is unplayable on my mini as well. Its not the end of the world, but its disappointing. I think some apple fans over-state how well Macs do in gaming. Naturally playing a game natively the experience will be better then in crossover and/or parallels, but gaming still is Apple's weakest link on the Mac platform.
I enjoyed Mac gaming, but that was back in the ‘90s:


Some classic/vintage/retro titles have had efforts to bring them forward, for example:



By the way, I have gotten this to work and seemingly well — on both M1 and M4. I haven’t played a multiplayer game yet because that’s also far more tedious to setup/configure without Battle.net integration.


As for (semi-)current, native Mac games:

 
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