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New Mac Pro's confirmed for 2013!
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That's a long way off
This it absolute BS. What this is saying is that we can't be bothered right now, come back next year and we get to you then. They have had 2 years to think of what they want to do and they need 3? I don't buy it for one minute. They are trying to save face. It makes me even madder than before. I'd frankly rather they killed it off.
2013 is to soon for New Mac Pros. New ones were just released yesterday! 2014 would give them a nice 2 year gap between releases so that the one's just released can hold their value.
it could be even longer. the linked article says "...the Mac and the Mac Pro and that they will likely be released in 2013." It could easily be 2014. Apple seems to be waiting for Ivy Bridge Xeons and given the story with the Sandy Bridge ones who knows when Intel will actually deliver on that.
This. I can easily imagine a long-term planning meeting at Apple HQ with bullet-point presentation showing Intel's roadmap. Someone points out they can cut the chip count on the motherboard by waiting until Ivy Bridge to provide USB 3.0 support. So they go all in on a redesign of the Pro, maybe cutting some of the PCI slots (assuming TB will provide replacement functionality), maybe providing more onboard power for newer graphics cards, drop the optical drive in hopes of a more rackmountable form factor, etc.
So they do the deed, make the investment, and Intel's roadmap turns out more like an endless highway than a stairway to heaven. Redesign the mobo for Sandy Bridge plus support chips? Too expensive! So they take the old mobo and plug in the best chips they can without outrageous changes as a stopgap until the Holy Grail Chipset shows up.
Honestly, while I'm rather put out that we didn't get the One MacPro To Rule Them All, processor technology has not been surging ahead so fast that the current MacPro is not useful. My MacPro 1,1 can feel the end coming with the hard stop when they end support for Lion, but it's still doing what I ask; I can wait.
You're calculating it wrong. Mac Pros had traditionally had updates every year but now it took them 2 years to come up with a minor speed bump. My speculation is that the year 2015 is the year we get another minor speed bump (in an effort to continue widening the gaps between releases) and 2019 is when we finally get a redesigned Mac Pro.
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very good news
Actually, this is very good news. Apple is very secretive, and this confirmation that "they will" come out with new Mac Pro's is a loud shout for a company that purposely doesn't say anything. Now, it is completely bone-headed for Apple not to have incorporated Thunderbolt, SATA3, and USB 3.0 (along with a new Radeon and Sandy Bridge) in a new 2012 Mac Pro; but, hey, this is as good, if not better, than it gets for Apple to say something specifically, about what they will do with a product. Of course all the news (bad) that has been made with the lack of a update now is probably influencing this confirmation in Forbes.
Actually, this is very good news. Apple is very secretive, and this confirmation that "they will" come out with new Mac Pro's is a loud shout for a company that purposely doesn't say anything. Now, it is completely bone-headed for Apple not to have incorporated Thunderbolt, SATA3, and USB 3.0 (along with a new Radeon and Sandy Bridge) in a new 2012 Mac Pro; but, hey, this is as good, if not better, than it gets for Apple to say something specifically, about what they will do with a product. Of course all the news (bad) that has been made with the lack of a update now is probably influencing this confirmation in Forbes.
Hmmm.
I don't believe the Mac Pro is dead. If Apple wanted to kill it, they would've silently done it like they did with the MB Pro 17" instead of the update they did. This tells me two things;
1. This is the absolute final update to the Mac Pro or;
2. There is a much bigger release of the Mac Pro that isn't ready yet due to timing of technologies not being ready yet or technical difficulties.
Guess we'll have to wait for WWDC 2013
I don't believe the Mac Pro is dead. If Apple wanted to kill it, they would've silently done it like they did with the MB Pro 17" instead of the update they did. This tells me two things;
1. This is the absolute final update to the Mac Pro or;
2. There is a much bigger release of the Mac Pro that isn't ready yet due to timing of technologies not being ready yet or technical difficulties.
Guess we'll have to wait for WWDC 2013
The fact that they are talking about this shows how bad they messed this thign up. With 100 billion in the bank I expect to see a leader not this weak little company being reactive instead of proactive.
Probably everyone with a Mac Pro or wants a Mac Pro will upgrade on that day in 2013. But here is the problem. Apple will see the Mac Pro sales almost go to zero in the meantime. They will then justify that since nobody is buying Mac Pros but they are buying tons of the new Macbook Pro laptops for $3,000 a pop that the professional market has moved on to laptops. Then they will kill the Mac Pro for lack of interest just like the 17 inch MBP.
The 17-inch MBP is a different matter to the Mac Pro. it is partly about brand and status, like a Ferrari. The Apple stores in London devote a lot of space to them. Quite a few top DJs and Film Makers use them. Having a 1080p studio in a laptop is also very useful. They don't need to sell these in large volume, the same applies to the new Retina models, it is all about image. Note the price points of the Retina MBPs are around the level the 17-inch MBP was at, its wouldn't make sense to sell both at this time.
I suspect that Apple will release a 17-inch Retina MBP in due course, intriguingly the NVidia GT 650m in the current 15-inch Retina MBPs supports the required resolution. For now the 15-inch Retina MBP mak
The Mac Pro is different, a tool for doing very heavy lifting.
But what are Apple playing at, have they learnt nothing from FCP X?
Power users are going to have gone to Dell and HP long before Apple get to market with new Mac Pros.
59% of Apple's revenue come from a single product. Not many people seem to realise it, but this is incredibly risky. Don't believe me? Look at Nokia, RIM, Motorola...
I suspect that Apple will release a 17-inch Retina MBP in due course, intriguingly the NVidia GT 650m in the current 15-inch Retina MBPs supports the required resolution. For now the 15-inch Retina MBP mak
The Mac Pro is different, a tool for doing very heavy lifting.
But what are Apple playing at, have they learnt nothing from FCP X?
Power users are going to have gone to Dell and HP long before Apple get to market with new Mac Pros.
59% of Apple's revenue come from a single product. Not many people seem to realise it, but this is incredibly risky. Don't believe me? Look at Nokia, RIM, Motorola...
I really doubt they will, it would have been all too easy for Apple to skip a Retina 17 inch and just slap a new processor in it, but they didn't. The 17 inch is gone and unfortunately there isn't anything we can do with it.