New Sony Camera - Nx5/NX70 VS Z1

[steveOooo]

I currently have a Z1 which in low light, is ok (DB to 12db, f1.6).

Ive used a NX5 which is 1.5lux - same as my old PD150 - so excellent / as is reproduction in low light.

Im looking to get the NX70 - which is 3 lux but at 1/25 shutter speed (stuttery) so im not sure its as good in low light as the z1? Im just fed up of tapes! the nx70 is similar to the nx5 but is £1k cheaper.

NX70

from the manual

"Minimum illumination 11 lx (lux) (in default setting, shutter speed 1/50
second) 3 lx (lux) ([Low Lux] is set to [On], shutter speed
1/25 second) 0 lx (lux) (NIGHTSHOT is set to [On])"

Other specs

http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/product/nxcamcorders/hxr-nx70e/technicalspecs

NX5

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-nxcamsite/cat-broadcastcameras/product-HXRNX5U/

Z1

http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-HVRZ1U/

Have a feeling in low light it will be very close to the z1 - which is bearable, was hoping for 1.5lux / same as nx5 / pd150

 

[puckhead193]

i have the nx5u. The low light is really good for my uses. I think it comes down to your uses and/or if you can use external lights. Besides the price there a few differences between the too cams such as size and weight, zoom, manual rings for zoom, focus and iris, and the flash memory unit.

 

[steveOooo]

im likely to have a ft job filming live music gigs so i think full auto is important - plus wouldnt want to make 20+ tape changes (using small hdv cam) per day.
In the future, I may need to do live editing and have this output to the venues tv screens - so the sd video out may be beneficial.

Think im just going to wait, The low light of the nx5 is great, but i find it is just a bit too bulky for going to nightclubs etc...

Just trying to decide if the low light of the nx70 is worse / the same / better than that of the z1.

 

[RMD68]

i think the nx5u isn't that big for what you get. Look in the FMU module so you won't have to worry about swapping SD cards.
I think low light will be important over size. The only time i find my nx5u heavy after a while is when i'm holding it with one hand, holding a stick mic in my left and trying to ask question in an interview and hold the camera steady, after a few minutes my arm kills. If i'm using two hands i'm good for a while. Can you use a tripod/monopod?

 

[steveOooo]

The fmu is the 128gb module?

How can u get it included with the nx5(e) buying in uk- cheapest ive seen it is £700!
I think u can get universal pal/ NTSC switchable version?

Ive used an nx5 before, great cam. Just was hoping for a smaller cam, less noticeable cam for events / nightclub shoots.

 

[pemb145]

Nx70e

Steve,

You may want to check out some sample footage in low light over at DVInfo
http:// vimeo.com/​mikebeckett/​videos.

I have the NX70E, and it is generally very good in low light, and has on board storage to save card swapping.

 

[steveOooo]

Steve,

You may want to check out some sample footage in low light over at DVInfo
http:// vimeo.com/​mikebeckett/​videos.

I have the NX70E, and it is generally very good in low light, and has on board storage to save card swapping.

Yeah saw that earlier - it reminded me of the z1s low light, would you say its similar to the z1 in low light (i tend to have that up to 12/18db in nightclubs, with the compression to mpg4 softening any grain).

Well if im offered the job at the rate i want, ill get the nx5 and / or rent a nx70 out to see - its going to be for a 2 cam multi recording of music gigs, perhaps the full manual of the nx5 (3 rings) and pd150 like low light will be the deal breakers.

 

[martinX]

Without having actually touched either of these two wonderful looking camcorders, I'd choose the NX5U. 3 chips are better than one. I'd have an NX70 if I expected to be in harsh environmental conditions (water splashes, dust etc).

I'd love to have either of them.

Re the FMU: the price of SDHC media is coming down to the point where the FMU's price had also better come down substantially, or it risks becoming completely irrelevant.