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King Cobra

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NASA researchers are working hard to find their way around space radiation, a hazard future astronauts can't avoid if they hope to fly on long missions to Mars and eventually set foot on its surface.

Much of their focus is on new and better shielding materials to slap on the outer surface of a spacecraft, since the traditional aluminum shells won't cut it during a multiyear mission.

But some scientists are also looking at alternative approaches to safeguard astronauts, ranging from the use of electric fields that create a protective shell around a spacecraft to basic ship design, and even new spacesuits for the exploration of the Martian landscape.
 
King Cobra said:
....and even new spacesuits for the exploration of the Martian landscape. [/I]

duh! NASA - "Nahhhh, its fine just use the 1970 era space suits. There only 30 yers old."

Man, NASA needs way more funding. (and I know where to get it ;) :eek: :D )

oh, the bit about the radiation thingy, couldn't they just cover the outside of the space craft with like 4 feet of lead?

[joke. like haha or hoho or lol]
 
It's about time that they upgrade radiation shields. Hopefully the shield work will also include computers. They will certainly need the use of faster processors. Maybe they can move up to at least a G4.
 
King Cobra said:
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NASA researchers are working hard to find their way around space radiation, a hazard future astronauts can't avoid if they hope to fly on long missions to Mars and eventually set foot on its surface.

Much of their focus is on new and better shielding materials to slap on the outer surface of a spacecraft, since the traditional aluminum shells won't cut it during a multiyear mission.

But some scientists are also looking at alternative approaches to safeguard astronauts, ranging from the use of electric fields that create a protective shell around a spacecraft to basic ship design, and even new spacesuits for the exploration of the Martian landscape.

Hey... waitaminute...

ranging from the use of electric fields that create a protective shell around a spacecraft

Doesn't that mean they'll get to say "shields up" and have it mean something? ;) Damn, I never thought I'd live to see the day. :D
 
wdlove said:
It's about time that they upgrade radiation shields. Hopefully the shield work will also include computers. They will certainly need the use of faster processors. Maybe they can move up to at least a G4.

It's tough to use fast processors in space because the gate oxides need to be so damned thick... with thin gate oxides, a stray radiation particle can too easily change the state of the gate. I think the fastest processor up in space right now is a modified PPC 750cx running at 133 MHz.

Of course, cooling isn't much of a problem in space. :p
 
Daveman Deluxe said:
It's tough to use fast processors in space because the gate oxides need to be so damned thick... with thin gate oxides, a stray radiation particle can too easily change the state of the gate. I think the fastest processor up in space right now is a modified PPC 750cx running at 133 MHz.

Of course, cooling isn't much of a problem in space. :p

cooling is a big problem because if you are in the sun you are super hot and out of the sun its really really cold. Thermal stresses are a big issue.

As for dealing with radiation affecting the gates you could do a consensus model. Replace each gate with 3 in parallel. I know its a bit more complicated but it should do the job.
 
Electrostatic shielding is fine, but it does require a power source. If that fails, you lose the radiation protection. I think the best system would be a redundant one that includes electrostatic and traditional (ablative or special hull coating) so that you better safe guard the lives of the astronauts on a multi year mission to Mars or elsewhere.

D
 
My understanding was that the best up there right now was a variant of the PPC 603e (on the Mars Rovers Spirit and Opportunity).

I am aware that many aerospace companies test the chips (artificially aging them) in a radiation field, to verify lifetime, prior to putting them into an actual vehicle.

Lead is a wonderful shielding material, unfortunately getting it up the gravity well makes it expensive. Getting that much mass accelerated requires a prohibitive amount of fuel as well, adding to the mass.....vicious cycle. Time to start the lead mine on the moon, and use an electromagnetic railgun to put it in orbit.
 
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