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Brockyneo

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hi I’ve just switched from android and have been rooting phones since I can remember I just have a couple of questions

I have a iPhone 8 Plus on the latest software 11.2.6 I was looking at Jailbreaking but I was woundering

Does Jailbreaking brake any of the features etc like on Samsung phones you trip Knox it destroys Samsung pay etc and on Sony phones it’s damages the drm keys

Also is there a way of apply knowing you have jail broken a phone once you have restored the phone

Or is it a case of yes go ahead and Jailbreak and if I don’t like it just do a restore on iTunes

Thanks
 
Brockyneo said:
hi I’ve just switched from android and have been rooting phones since I can remember I just have a couple of questions

I have a iPhone 8 Plus on the latest software 11.2.6 I was looking at Jailbreaking but I was woundering

Does Jailbreaking brake any of the features etc like on Samsung phones you trip Knox it destroys Samsung pay etc and on Sony phones it’s damages the drm keys

Also is there a way of apply knowing you have jail broken a phone once you have restored the phone

Or is it a case of yes go ahead and Jailbreak and if I don’t like it just do a restore on iTunes

Thanks
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A few things.

1. Some people say that Apple knows when you jailbreak, even if you restore. I've restored and replaced devices that were jailbroken a few times so if Apple DOES know - they don't care.

2. Apple's policy on jailbreaking changed a couple of years ago. They have to prove that whatever problem you are having is caused by the jailbreak before they can deny you warranty service. If they can't prove that or don't even try the most they can ask is for you to restore your device.

3. Jailbreaking does not break anything. Unless you actually install something that breaks it. For instance, installing a tweak or app that is not supported on your firmware can break things.

So, pretty much if you want to jailbreak and you can jailbreak then go ahead.
 
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eyoungren said:
A few things.

1. Some people say that Apple knows when you jailbreak, even if you restore. I've restored and replaced devices that were jailbroken a few times so if Apple DOES know - they don't care.

2. Apple's policy on jailbreaking changed a couple of years ago. They have to prove that whatever problem you are having is caused by the jailbreak before they can deny you warranty service. If they can't prove that or don't even try the most they can ask is for you to restore your device.

3. Jailbreaking does not break anything. Unless you actually install something that breaks it. For instance, installing a tweak or app that is not supported on your firmware can break things.

So, pretty much if you want to jailbreak and you can jailbreak then go ahead.
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Thanks I’ve been looking at this way through safari https://www.downloadpangu.org/ios-11-2-6-jailbreak.html

Will that work ok do you know

Glad it doesn’t break anything was getting tired of rooting android and it breaking things

So if I jailbreak and don’t like it I can restore with iTunes and it will go back to how it was as if it never was Jailbroken
 
Brockyneo said:
Thanks I’ve been looking at this way through safari https://www.downloadpangu.org/ios-11-2-6-jailbreak.html

Will that work ok do you know
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No. Sorry. That's a fake jailbreak.

One of the things to realize with jailbreaking is that a lot of people who want to do this are uninformed. Consequently, a lot of OTHER people who know that take advantage of these uninformed people.

They get them to part with CC numbers, or install profiles that redirect their browsing, etc. Or both.

You should never pay for a jailbreak (they are always free) and you should consult credible sources for legit jailbreaks.

The Reddit Jailbreak page is a credible source. In the status bar on the right they tell you what the latest jailbreak is. There's also a matrix link there you can click on to give you a list by device and firmware what jailbreaks are legit and available.

That's the other thing. If you have not guessed by now you have to be on the correct firmware. Looks like 11.1 is the highest you can be right now for a jailbreak so you will have to wait until one is released for your firmware - provided you do not update your device while waiting.

Brockyneo said:
Glad it doesn’t break anything was getting tired of rooting android and it breaking things

So if I jailbreak and don’t like it I can restore with iTunes and it will go back to how it was as if it never was Jailbroken
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You can restore, but it should be done right. Most people just restore and that's where there problems come in.

You can do a DFU restore and upgrade after backing up your data. That removes every piece of the jailbreak and restores you to stock. Then you just restore from your backup.

Just restoring from the device or a simple restore from iTunes is likely to cause issues later on.

Keep in mine that once you do jailbreak, anything you install has a preference setting. THAT gets saved into any iTunes/iCloud backup. It allows you to upgrade and jailbreak and keep your old JB settings but if you don't want any of that stored in your backup then you'll need to either DFU Restore as new or not jailbreak at all.
 
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eyoungren said:
No. Sorry. That's a fake jailbreak.

One of the things to realize with jailbreaking is that a lot of people who want to do this are uninformed. Consequently, a lot of OTHER people who know that take advantage of these uninformed people.

They get them to part with CC numbers, or install profiles that redirect their browsing, etc. Or both.

You should never pay for a jailbreak (they are always free) and you should consult credible sources for legit jailbreaks.

The Reddit Jailbreak page is a credible source. In the status bar on the right they tell you what the latest jailbreak is. There's also a matrix link there you can click on to give you a list by device and firmware what jailbreaks are legit and available.

That's the other thing. If you have not guessed by now you have to be on the correct firmware. Looks like 11.1 is the highest you can be right now for a jailbreak so you will have to wait until one is released for your firmware - provided you do not update your device while waiting.


You can restore, but it should be done right. Most people just restore and that's where there problems come in.

You can do a DFU restore and upgrade after backing up your data. That removes every piece of the jailbreak and restores you to stock. Then you just restore from your backup.

Just restoring from the device or a simple restore from iTunes is likely to cause issues later on.

Keep in mine that once you do jailbreak, anything you install has a preference setting. THAT gets saved into any iTunes/iCloud backup. It allows you to upgrade and jailbreak and keep your old JB settings but if you don't want any of that stored in your backup then you'll need to either DFU Restore as new or not jailbreak at all.
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Ah right thanks I guess a lot more reading and learning is in order before I move on them lol thanks again

Btw maybe a stupid question but do you prefer iOS to android?

Oh yes and is they a good YouTube app that lets you stream 4K like ProTube use too

Thanks
 
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Brockyneo said:
Ah right thanks I guess a lot more reading and learning is in order before I move on them lol thanks again

Btw maybe a stupid question but do you prefer iOS to android?

Oh yes and is they a good YouTube app that lets you stream 4K like ProTube use too

Thanks
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The question about iOS or Android is a difficult one to answer for me.

I prefer iOS over what Android was a few years back. Given the way things are with iOS/iPhone and are going now though, my next phone will be Android.

But before iOS I came to iPhone from Windows Mobile. So, I never dealt with the very early versions of Android.

What I've seen lately though as compared to older versions of Android has improved considerably.

I can't answer your question about a 4K app for YT.
 
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eyoungren said:
3. Jailbreaking does not break anything. Unless you actually install something that breaks it. For instance, installing a tweak or app that is not supported on your firmware can break things.
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That is incorrect, it might break certain banking apps and media content providers, just like with root the apss look for jailbreak traces. There are some jailbreak solutions for this similar to root hide etc. but they are not well maintained, so if you depend on those it is something to consider.
 
@eyoungren This is the best info I've yet found that answers my newb queries about jailbreaking my first time, thank you. Not trying to hijack this thread by any means, but it's just what I needed answered at present.

My only 2 questions are: 1- where do I find what firmware I have, and 2- what is a DFU Restore? I wish to have all my little duckies lined up before I begin. ;)
 
Nanasooshi said:
@eyoungren This is the best info I've yet found that answers my newb queries about jailbreaking my first time, thank you. Not trying to hijack this thread by any means, but it's just what I needed answered at present.

My only 2 questions are: 1- where do I find what firmware I have, and 2- what is a DFU Restore? I wish to have all my little duckies lined up before I begin. ;)
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You're welcome!

1. Inside the Settings app, General>About it will tell you what version of iOS the device has.
2. DFU Mode is a special mode that allows iTunes to talk directly to the device firmware without anything getting in the way. DFU stands for Device Firmware Upgrade. A DFU restore is simply using DFU Mode to initiate a restore of the device

Typically a DFU restore will always involve an update unless you are doing this at a time that the current version of iOS is still being signed. A DFU restore will ALWAYS result in the loss of your data because it's designed to restore as new. So, always back up your data before you attempt this.

You'll know if you are in DFU mode properly if the screen on your device is blank.
 
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If Apple released iMessage for Android my iPhone 6 would be gone. Android has so much more native customization.
 
DigitalDawn said:
If Apple released iMessage for Android my iPhone 6 would be gone. Android has so much more native customization.
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iMessage is one of Apple's more valued assets. They know that it keeps a lot of people bound to them. While I can appreciate your desire for that to happen, it's not going to ever happen as long as it remains as valuable to Apple as it is now.

iTunes was released to Windows because it was a calculated risk to draw in non-Mac users to iPhone and iPod. It gained them customers and sales they would not ordinarily have acquired.

Let iMessage out and they lose sales and customers. You just said so yourself. :)
 
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