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Just a thought for consideration, some people completely dominate with new topics and it makes it tough to read through a board this way. I would ask who needs to start 10 new topics in a day or a even a week, instead of simply replying to an existing thread. This would at least make those users consider posting something a little more substantive if they know there's a limit.
 
Just a thought for consideration, some people completely dominate with new topics and it makes it tough to read through a board this way. I would ask who needs to start 10 new topics in a day or a even a week, instead of simply replying to an existing thread. This would at least make those users consider posting something a little more substantive if they know there's a limit.

If you see a pattern where multiple new topics from a single user seem to duplicate already-existing threads or seem frivolous in some other way, please send a report of one of those threads. You don't have to link to more threads by the same person - we can find them easily - just mention in the message that you think we should look at the user's threads.

While there's no rule prohibiting one user starting more than one thread daily, the pattern you describe is something we'd want to look into.
 
I would ask who needs to start 10 new topics in a day or a even a week, instead of simply replying to an existing thread.
Perhaps someone who wants to discuss different things? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We are a discussion forum and if someone wants to start a new discussion (even after they started other threads), they shouldn't be discouraged imo.

I would rather look at ways to foster discussion and dialog then ways to deter and impede it
 
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Perhaps someone who wants to discuss different things? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We are a discussion forum and if someone wants to start a new discussion (even after they started other threads), they shouldn't be discouraged imo.

I would rather look at ways to foster discussion and dialog then ways to deter and impede it

Good point - there needs to be a healthy, sensible balance between wanting to discuss and creating a thread where there's an existing, relevant thread.
 
Right, there's two versions of it:

1) New threads as almost a stream of consciousness, ex: Who buys from Target? Who buys from Walmart? Who buys from Amazon? Who buys from Best Buy? - vs - What retailers do you buy from? (especially since there will, by the nature of the topic, be cross talk about other retailers).

2) Starting new threads where clearly there are existing threads that are better place, ex: What oil do you use for your car? What cars have good incentives? Would you buy a Ford or a Chevy? -v- <posting in The Car Thread>

Generally for #2, I suggest in the new thread, that maybe posting in the X thread would be better, and they'd get more eye traffic (and subsequently, more replies), I've even mentioned asking a moderator to move their thread.

#1 is more just a lack of understanding of forum communication practices, usually those threads just trickle off into the no-response-abyss ... but it sounds like the admins would be receptive to consolidating them, things like this are generally noticed more by users since they're not any kind of violation, so I call it a "community consideration", and just help by reporting (but in a positive way).
 
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Perhaps someone who wants to discuss different things? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We are a discussion forum and if someone wants to start a new discussion (even after they started other threads), they shouldn't be discouraged imo.

I would rather look at ways to foster discussion and dialog then ways to deter and impede it
I would conversely ask how limiting the number of new threads one can post in any given day deters or impedes their right to speak? Particularly when it's on the same subject as several other threads on that same page. They can still reply to an existing thread on that same topic if they want.

It also takes away from others' ability to start new conversations when one or two people take over a board like that, you often get duplicates and out-scooped by some of the more prolific posters, this makes the environment much more of a clique than all inclusive.

With a common sense rule on how many new threads can be started in one day in place, the average user wouldn't even know it exists, those who do over post new topics would be forced to be more thoughtful about it when they're aware of a limit. They can still interact (reply) with existing topics with no limits.

Just my .02
 
I would conversely ask how limiting the number of new threads one can post in any given day deters or impedes their right to speak?
If a person has a specific problem with their MBP, and yet started earlier unrelated threads, they can no longer get help. That certainly sounds like a deterrence, especially if the problem is critical and suddenly cropped up. They'll move on to another site for support and help because we put in a limit of how many threads people can start.

If you're talking about starting new threads on a topic that already exists, well then the moderation team will often merge duplicate topics together.

It also takes away from others' ability to start new conversations when one or two people take over a board like that
Are you saying you are annoyed that a small group of people are starting threads before you (or other members) and you want the opportunity to start a thread on a given topic instead of joining an existing one?


With a common sense rule on how many new threads can be started in one day in place, the average user wouldn't even know it exists,
If it won't affect most people,how much of an issue is this really? Do you have examples of one person starting many threads day in and day out? How is this impacting your visit to MacRumors?

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If a person has a specific problem with their MBP, and yet started earlier unrelated threads, they can no longer get help. That certainly sounds like a deterrence, especially if the problem is critical and suddenly cropped up. They'll move on to another site for support and help because we put in a limit of how many threads people can start.
So you're saying if I have a bad MB that I may need to post more than 10 new threads on it per day in that given forum? This isn't realistic and if that were actually the case one would expect a moderator to get in there and redirect accordingly.

If you're talking about starting new threads on a topic that already exists, well then the moderation team will often merge duplicate topics together.
It pollutes the experience for others when one or two people dominate the board, people are far more likely to simply stay out of it rather than reporting every thread. One of the biggest problems with this board is the fact that it fosters a "report everything" environment of finger pointing when it simply needs proper management by staff.

Are you saying you are annoyed that a small group of people are starting threads before you (or other members) and you want the opportunity to start a thread on a given topic instead of joining an existing one?
Yes, this is EXACTLY what I am saying. Let other people have a chance to join in, that is what open discussion is about. I suspect some of this argument is subjective to one's beliefs, in the end it's your board (or at least you are part of the staff) so this is your call, but IMO letting a couple of people hog the board takes the wind out of it for everyone else who may want to otherwise participate.

If it won't affect most people,how much of an issue is this really? Do you have examples of one person starting many threads day in and day out? How is this impacting your visit to MacRumors?
It will only affect those who abuse it, that's the point.
 
So you're saying if I have a bad MB that I may need to post more than 10 new threads on it per day in that given forum? This isn't realistic and if that were actually the case one would expect a moderator to get in there and redirect accordingly.
You're the one stating that people need to be limited in creating threads, I provided an example of how it could have a negative impact.

Yes, this is EXACTLY what I am saying.
So other members are more active than you, and you want to punish them to give you better opportunity to create threads - seems kind of extreme ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Especially as it shouldn't matter who creates the thread but rather being part of the dialog. You seem to be more interested in being the OP rather than being part of a discussion. Just my $.02
 
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You're the one stating that people need to be limited in creating threads, I provided an example of how it could have a negative impact.


So other members are more active than you, and you want to punish them to give you better opportunity to create threads - seems kind of extreme ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Especially as it shouldn't matter who creates the thread but rather being part of the dialog. You seem to be more interested in being the OP rather than being part of a discussion. Just my $.02
This has absolutely zero to do with “me” being the OP and completely misses the point but I’ll just agree to disagree here.
 
The only reason this would be needed is to combat the bot posts, and possibly the occasional troll. But they get removed quickly anyway so it's not really worth it.
 
Setting these type of limits in a discussion forum is contra-productive.
Controlling the "phenomenon" mentioned in the OP is the task of moderators backed by members through the report-system.

Yesterday, some wanted PRSI to be out because it allegedly "dominated and made it tough to read through a board", today number of new topics pose a problem because allegedly it "dominates and makes it tough to read through a board". What's next?

Simply enjoy the Forum like others do, who click only on threads that are of interest for them. Not a difficult task.
 
Setting these type of limits in a discussion forum is contra-productive.
Controlling the "phenomenon" mentioned in the OP is the task of moderators backed by members through the report-system.

Yesterday, some wanted PRSI to be out because it allegedly "dominated and made it tough to read through a board", today number of new topics pose a problem because allegedly it "dominates and makes it tough to read through a board". What's next?

Simply enjoy the Forum like others do, who click only on threads that are of interest for them. Not a difficult task.
Huh? People were complaining about PRSI dominating the forum? Don't they know you can hide it easily?
 
Huh? People were complaining about PRSI dominating the forum? Don't they know you can hide it easily?
This is a great point and I do use the ignore feature as well. The biggest issue with that when you are interested in the forum itself, is when someone else starts a new topic not realizing that one of the others (who seem to literally live in that forum) have beaten them to the punch, which in its own right is also fair. But if that person is on ignore, you'll never know you posted on top of them, then you get a moderation notification and are clueless as to why.
 
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The ignore functionality aside, which I guess is a bit of a thorny issue as it comes to new threads, if hypothetically a person initiates 10 threads on 10 topics, which have not been covered before in the forum, what's the harm?

If these some or all of these 10 topics have been covered previously then report the threads and the mods/admins will look into them.
 
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