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Nikon D70 to challenge Digital Rebel.

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Nikon Developing Consumer DSLR to challenge Digital Rebel


Nikon(R) Announces Development of D70(TM) Digital SLR Camera

New Nikon D70 Poised to Expand Digital SLR Camera Market by Delivering
Excellent Performance and Superb Image Quality at an Attractive Price

MELVILLE, N.Y., Dec. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Nikon (http://www.nikonusa.com), the world leader in photography, today announced development of the D70, a new interchangeable-lens digital SLR camera designed to deliver superb image
quality and hallmark Nikon SLR performance at an attractive price that a broad range of consumers will find within reach. A new DX Zoom-Nikkor lens is being developed concurrently to match the D70, and both products are scheduled to go on sale in the spring of 2004.

Designed for a wide range of customers, from novices to serious and experienced photo enthusiasts, the D70 will enable photographers to easily adopt digital technology into their existing camera system. The new model will offer an exclusive selection of new features and exciting Nikon SLR technology that will surpass products within the evolving digital SLR market, and provide exceptional value at an estimated retail price of $999.00 for the
camera body.

"The D70 represents Nikon's next step in expanding the digital SLR camera market. Ever since the introduction of the revolutionary D1 in 1999, Nikon has been in constant pursuit of the highest image quality and performance in digital SLRs.
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And it's much sexier than the 300d IMHO. All black camera bodies are generally more attractive:
 

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Originally posted by tazo
thats a pretty sexy beast :)

it has a lot going for it, but it'd still be 100 more than the rebel w/o kit lens like I would be doing...

why is this in software discussion?
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Opps. i thought it was in software/hardware.

Looks like it'll be $999 with lens. $899 without. But it's all nonconfirmed.

That said, my "insider" told me the specs... and for the price it'll have about twice the useful features of the 300d.

That, and it's about the same size.
 
Looks really nice :D

But it just hints at the specs and improvements, I'd love to know more about it. Megapixel, connectivity, iso range etc...

D
 
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Looks really nice :D

But it just hints at the specs and improvements, I'd love to know more about it. Megapixel, connectivity, iso range etc...

D
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Well, from what I know, 6mp, ISO 200-1600, USB 2.0, possible wireless, the normal 1/4000-bulb shutter speed, etc etc.

The difference is it'll be made like the d100 body wise, not cheapy plastic like the 300d.
 
Yeah, the body is quite nice. I think Canon could have done better with the body of the 300D and the D70 will hurt them in that regard.

D
 
Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Yeah, the body is quite nice. I think Canon could have done better with the body of the 300D and the D70 will hurt them in that regard.

D
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Exacts. The nice thing is this looks like new design/high end design and is more fitting for a $999 cam, even if it's the "consumer" one.

Canon took a $200 body and crammed digital guts into it... and it just doesn't feel like it's worth $999....it feels chintzy.
 
Originally posted by CmdrLaForge
Looks like the digital cam I waited for !

Looking forward to the specs.

It looks like Nikons answer to the Canon,
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Exactly.

If recent trends hold true.... Nikon's version will be ready to go and will have a long market life and success, while canon will (and they traditionally have) kill the 300d and add some features and call it the 600d or something.

And the funny thing is, the 600d will be a 300d with like,extra software features....etc etc etc.

So you can play teh Canon marketing game or get a Nikon and have some shelf life. :)

And the image quality between 'em is 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Exacts. The nice thing is this looks like new design/high end design and is more fitting for a $999 cam, even if it's the "consumer" one.

Canon took a $200 body and crammed digital guts into it... and it just doesn't feel like it's worth $999....it feels chintzy.
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i would vehemently disagree with u there -- canon took a 10D, dumbed it down and shoved it into a plastic body...

the rebel isnt a point and shoot and it shouldnt be referred to as one...

The D70 looks nice, but if it weights 2lbs with lenses like the D100, I wouldnt buy it...Also, are u positive of whether or not u can order it for 899 without lense? If so, than i would probably go with it. The body seems much nicer than the digital rebel I will admit, but I dunno if I would go with it since it'd be revision a, and bound to have problems.

Other than that I would definitely give it a serious look...

All sigma lenses work with nikon right?
 
Originally posted by tazo
i would vehemently disagree with u there -- canon took a 10D, dumbed it down and shoved it into a plastic body...

the rebel isnt a point and shoot and it shouldnt be referred to as one...

The D70 looks nice, but if it weights 2lbs with lenses like the D100, I wouldnt buy it...Also, are u positive of whether or not u can order it for 899 without lense? If so, than i would probably go with it. The body seems much nicer than the digital rebel I will admit, but I dunno if I would go with it since it'd be revision a, and bound to have problems.

Other than that I would definitely give it a serious look...

All sigma lenses work with nikon right?
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ok. you're completely wrong on all counts. The 300d isn't a 10d's guts shoved in a plastic body. A sensor does not a camera make!

It's a different AF system. It's different software. It's got different model selections. The flash is nowhere near as robust and functional. There's not as many ISO choices (100-3200 on the 10d... 100-1600 on the 300d). The memory buffer is smaler on the 300d. There's no option for continuous AF. The veiwfinder is of a lesser quality (darker).

Secondly, I didn't refer to a P&S camera. It's not a P&S but it's certainly not a professional camera. I think canon could have sold it for $599 if they wanted. The build quality of the body is second rate. Compared to the Minolta P&S's and the NIkon 5700, it feels like a toy.

Cameras aren't computers. Revision A products are only problematic in teh canon world, wehre they introduce a new model, and discontinue the old one, making your $999 camera obsolete and replaced with a camera that only has minor new features.

The d100's firmware upgrades have been substantial and added functionality to a camera that was 99% reliable out of the gate! The 10d's had noted focusing problems, and the 300d had big AF problems as well.

Regarding the weight...if you're aiming to really learn and improve your photography, get used to lugging stuff around. SLR systems by nature aren't light and if you wanna have all the tools to do what you wanna do... it's gonna get heavy. If you wanna just do snapshots... you'll be fine.

I'm 99% that the d70 will be prcied with and without lens, just like the 300d.

And yes, all sigma lenses work with nikons.
 
Originally posted by Moxiemike
Regarding the weight...if you're aiming to really learn and improve your photography, get used to lugging stuff around. SLR systems by nature aren't light and if you wanna have all the tools to do what you wanna do... it's gonna get heavy. If you wanna just do snapshots... you'll be fine.
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That's been the biggest thing to get used to having switched from a Dimage 7i to the D100. When I venture out to do some shooting, unless I will be a few feet from my car, I'm lugging around my camera with lens around my neck, my bag fixed around my shoulder, and my tripod. That's considered light packing in some circles.

It can be a pain walking around the French Quarter in 95° New Orleans heat I'll admit.

I've already got plans to carry 2 bags when I make some lens purchases early next year. I don't particularly want to carry around all that stuff, but if it means versatility in shooting decisions depending on environments, I'm gonna do it. I'd rather be inconvenienced for a little while than miss a good shot. ;)
 
Originally posted by eyelikeart
That's been the biggest thing to get used to having switched from a Dimage 7i to the D100. When I venture out to do some shooting, unless I will be a few feet from my car, I'm lugging around my camera with lens around my neck, my bag fixed around my shoulder, and my tripod. That's considered light packing in some circles.

It can be a pain walking around the French Quarter in 95° New Orleans heat I'll admit.

I've already got plans to carry 2 bags when I make some lens purchases early next year. I don't particularly want to carry around all that stuff, but if it means versatility in shooting decisions depending on environments, I'm gonna do it. I'd rather be inconvenienced for a little while than miss a good shot. ;)
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Bingo man. well said.
 
It looks really nice. I'd imagine it will be a great performer too.

Today's Nikon cameras are so light compared to the old F series I used to sell in the 1970s.

It's kind of sad about the Digital Rebel, but for people who like the Rebel already, it's probably wonderful. ;)

Now, if Olympus would get going and give me a digital OM-1N.
 
YEEAAHHH!

This is what I was hoping would happen.
I would like a D100, but $1500 is a strech. If I can get a D70, which uses the same lenses for $700 (assuming the retail price will be $100 less as has happend with most cameras) then I would buy it ASAP.
 
For those of you that are interested this website has a bit more information on the Nikon F70 and a very extensive review (22 pages) of the Canon Rebel/300D:

http://www.dpreview.com

Incidently, Nikon are also releasing a new zoom lense with the F70, this is likely to be a low cost wide angle zoom to compete with offerings from Canon and Sigma.
 
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