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bigpoppamac31

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I just noticed there are no 2015 refurb MBPs in the online Apple Store. At least in Canada anyway. Is Apple not going to sell those and just push the current ones? Mine is a 2014 so I don't know if the new one is noticeably better. A 2016 with similar specs to mine is only 2.0Ghz whereas mine is 2.8Ghz. Both dual core (http://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/G0SW2LL/A). Still not a fan of the whole USB-C thing but I guess that's the direction we're going in.
 
When comparing processors with different microarchitectures, it makes no sense to compare with respect to clock speeds. Even though your current model runs 200MHz faster, this is built on a smaller node, with the Skylake microarchitecture as opposed to Haswell. Whilst macOS as of now does not have the drivers required to support it, there's also SpeedShift on the Skylake part, which will presumably eventually come to macOS. The Iris graphics chip is also significantly better, especially on the touch bar model.

Though overall, no, it isn't worth it in terms of the performance difference. I'd wager the CPU is 10% faster roughly and the GPU, maybe 35%.
 
When comparing processors with different microarchitectures, it makes no sense to compare with respect to clock speeds. Even though your current model runs 200MHz faster, this is built on a smaller node, with the Skylake microarchitecture as opposed to Haswell. Whilst macOS as of now does not have the drivers required to support it, there's also SpeedShift on the Skylake part, which will presumably eventually come to macOS. The Iris graphics chip is also significantly better, especially on the touch bar model.

Though overall, no, it isn't worth it in terms of the performance difference. I'd wager the CPU is 10% faster roughly and the GPU, maybe 35%.

Well I'm not necessarily planning to upgrade yet. It was just something I noticed when browsing their site. Usually they sell refurbs of the current and previous gen models. We'll see how it goes with my screen issue (which I posted about earlier). Otherwise my MBP runs great overall. I haven't yet upgraded to Sierra though which is fine for me. I'm really hoping Apple updates their iMac sometime soon as I may switch back to a desktop and just get an iPad for portable usage.
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2015 MBPs show up on the Apple website from time to time, sometimes even older than that. To get a rough idea of which processors are faster, check the benchmarks for the processors at a place like this:

https://browser.primatelabs.com/mac-benchmarks

Be sure to check single- and multi-core.

Okay thanks.
 
My guess is that the Skylake are more efficient and will give a bit better battery life.

I recently bought the 2016 base non touch 13" and it's a fantastic laptop. If you don't mind the lack of legacy ports, I would go with the 2016.
 
Well, Apple claims that the 2016 has longer battery life and in my experience, although limited to about two months of ownership for both models, it is true. I get an hour or sometimes two hours more with the 2016.
 
My guess is that the Skylake are more efficient and will give a bit better battery life.

I recently bought the 2016 base non touch 13" and it's a fantastic laptop. If you don't mind the lack of legacy ports, I would go with the 2016.

Lack of legacy ports does bother me. They could have kept the legacy ports and included the new USB-C and have it be a "transitional" Mac. But I would like a MBP which supports full 4K to an external display. I don't believe mine does.
 
But I would like a MBP which supports full 4K to an external display. I don't believe mine does.
Your 2014 definitely supports 4k but not at 60Hz.


*This model supports a simultaneous maximum resolution up to 2560x1600 on two external displays via Thunderbolt. Alternately, it can support a single display up to 2560x1600 via Thunderbolt and a single 1080p display at up to 60 Hz, 3840x2160 at 30 Hz, or 4096x2160 at 24 Hz via HDMI.
 
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You should be able to drive a 4K monitor:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206587

Yeah but not at 60Hz.
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Your 2014 definitely supports 4k but not at 60Hz.


*This model supports a simultaneous maximum resolution up to 2560x1600 on two external displays via Thunderbolt. Alternately, it can support a single display up to 2560x1600 via Thunderbolt and a single 1080p display at up to 60 Hz, 3840x2160 at 30 Hz, or 4096x2160 at 24 Hz via HDMI.

Yeah that's what I mean.
 
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