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New mini M4 looks like no more USB-A. Only USB-C. But I still have a good keyboard, mouse, and a bunch of hard drives + 2 USB hubs all in the A family.

If I get the new mini. I am not interested in buying new stuff just to accommodate the new USB C ports. What is the best option? USB C to A adapters. Or a USB C hub with A ports.

I don't want to overload the mini either. What are the best options for older A devices?
 
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It's a bit unfortunate. I just purchased a two pack of USB-A Female to USB-C Male dongles to attach to an old wired keyboard and mouse to get past the initial setup...
 
It's a bit unfortunate. I just purchased a two pack of USB-A Female to USB-C Male dongles to attach to an old wired keyboard and mouse to get past the initial setup...
And that worked?
 
And that worked?

Well I just tested it on a PC and see no reason why it won’t work on the Mac Mini tomorrow. I guess I’ll update the thread after I have it up and running.

Any generic adapter would do for temporary use, but for your needs you might want to get something a bit higher quality (OWC dock etc) since you have external storage drives
 
Get 3 or 4 of these:

DON'T get the ones that look like this:

small adapter.jpg

REASON WHY:
They may "block access" to adjacent USBc ports.
The ones with the short length of cable "in between" do not.
 
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Get 3 or 4 of these:

DON'T get the ones that look like this:

View attachment 2448508
REASON WHY:
They may "block access" to adjacent USBc ports.
The ones with the short length of cable "in between" do not.
Agreed.

I went with these and have worked great testing a few different devices on my pc laptop. I will be using it to connect a wired keyboard and mouse to the new Mac Mini to get through initial setup.

 
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Get 3 or 4 of these:

DON'T get the ones that look like this:

View attachment 2448508
REASON WHY:
They may "block access" to adjacent USBc ports.
The ones with the short length of cable "in between" do not.
I used some of these in the past on my MacBook but had issues with disconnects. Probably the ones I got were just made too cheaply.
 
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Get 3 or 4 of these:

DON'T get the ones that look like this:

View attachment 2448508
REASON WHY:
They may "block access" to adjacent USBc ports.
The ones with the short length of cable "in between" do not.
Shouldn't be a problem on the new Mini - the USB-C ports are vertical (like the Studio) not horizontal like the old Mini - and the spacing looks about the same as the Studio. I use this style of adapter (Syntec, I think) on my Studio without problems. They'll certainly fit on those front ports.
 
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Or a USB C hub with A ports.
Your existing USB-A hubs should "just work" with a USB-A-to-C adapter. Just be a bit careful about hanging multiple hard drives off a non-powered hub - it won't be able to handle any more current than before.

Also remember that - if any of your equipment uses USB-A to USB B or Micro B cables, USB-C to USB-B or Micro-B cables are available as replacements.

Just note that if all of your devices are USB 2 or 3 (whether they're A or C) there's rarely any advantage to plugging them into a USB-C or Thunderbolt hub/dock compared to an old-school USB hub unless you're also going to connect displays or proper TB devices in to that dock. Also be aware that a lot of non-thunderbolt USB-C docks/multiport adapters with display connections limit their USB ports to USB 2 speeds. Same with USB-A ports on USB-C displays.
 
I'm in the same boat. I have almost nothing that's USB-C, so I can't plug anything into my new MacBook Pro. I have one A-C adapter that I got when I wanted to try a USB-A stick in my iPad Pro.

I don't blame Apple. I blame my Surface Pro 6 that came with only a single USB-A port, and the dock came with only USB-A ports. Had it come with USB-C five years ago, I'd have USB-C peripherals by now. 😂
 
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Get 3 or 4 of these:

DON'T get the ones that look like this:

View attachment 2448508
REASON WHY:
They may "block access" to adjacent USBc ports.
The ones with the short length of cable "in between" do not.
I didn’t think of that , but I’m only using it in the front port , the rare time I have to connect my sd card reader adapter usb
 
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I picked up an assortment of A to C and C to A adapters… literally less than $10.

The A to C are for things like a keyboard, etc. device with built-in A plug to connect to new computers and chargers.

The C to A are for the occasional USB charger built into furniture so I can use them with new cables.
 
I get people who are missing USB A, i do, but "we" all knew this day would come, and obsolete tech will have to go at one stage.

Decided I won`t get a computer with USB A a few years back, and have consistently replaced gear with USB C only after that. Thus I won`t have any additional costs as a result of Macs going USB C only. I have been waiting for Apple to get rid of USB A and Lightening, and for the Mac Mini that should have happened with the M2 iteration, M1 Mini serving as a transitional machine. For Lightening it should have happened with iPhone 12 or 13. It was long overdue.

The only thing I have to replace is the transmitter for my Logitech for Mac keyboard/mouse, IF Apple bluetooth keeps on being subpar that is. The Logitech transmitter (which is based upon bluetooth) is way more reliable. The monitor is USB C already, so is my backup SSD. I haven`t purchased anything with the purpose of getting USB C, just selecting USB C gear when replacing something I had to get anyway. It added a buck here and a buck there to the prices paid, quite ignorable.

I probably will have to get a couple of cables, I only have 1m and shorter USB C cables for now. I am indeed looking forward to get rid of everything not USB C from my desk and drawers :)

....and now I have to consider whether I should bother with Thunderbolt 5 or stick to Thunderbolt 4.....
 
The only thing I have to replace is the transmitter for my Logitech for Mac keyboard/mouse
Don’t bother - just put the USB-A one in one of those small USB-C to A adapters. Not sure if Logitech even do a USB-C version.

Those “low profile” USB-A transmitters work by hiding most of the circuitry into the “shaft” of the USB-A plug, the “handle” that protrudes is mainly antenna - that won’t fit in a USB-C plug so where manufacturers do make USB-C dongles they’re almost as big as a USB-A dongle in an adapter - at least in terms of how far they protrude, which is the important bit.
 
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Don’t bother - just put the USB-A one in one of those small USB-C to A adapters. Not sure if Logitech even do a USB-C version.

Those “low profile” USB-A transmitters work by hiding most of the circuitry into the “shaft” of the USB-A plug, the “handle” that protrudes is mainly antenna - that won’t fit in a USB-C plug so where manufacturers do make USB-C dongles they’re almost as big as a USB-A dongle in an adapter - at least in terms of how far they protrude, which is the important bit.
Yeah, my bad. Was sure they got Bolt/Unified USB C receivers, but they don`t. Won`t go down the dongle route unless I have to, let`s hope Bluetooth has been sorted out. Was a bit annoying, keyboard and mouse dropping out, having to be paired up again.

A caveat with Logitech is that they bloat software to set the thing up, which makes it tempting to swap it for Apple`s own (getting rid of the num pad while at it). Apple REALLY should have put some lights into their keyboards. Years ago. They would have sold me one already if so. 🤣
 
A caveat with Logitech is that they bloat software to set the thing up, which makes it tempting to swap it for Apple`s own
...but it's worth checking that you really need the software. I've been using MX Master mice for years and the only software I need is the standlone Unifying Receiver app to pair mice and keyboards with the dongles - and you only need that very occasionally (and only on one machine). I don't know what its like with the new "Bolt" dongles - I actually bought a new-old-stock MX Master 2S last year to avoid those :) All the buttons work apart from the thumb button used for the weird "gesture" feature (which I can live without).

I've used Logitech keyboards without bloatware too in the past - the only problem is with keyboard layouts (particularly British English PC layouts vs. what Apple thinks is a British English layout) but that might be a UK problem. Also, some logitech keyboards have Mac-friendly key labels anyway.

At the moment, though, you can have my ~2010s Apple Aluminium wired keyboard w/ keypad when you prise it from my cold, dead, but surprisingly RSI-free hands:)
 
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New mini M4 looks like no more USB-A. Only USB-C. But I still have a good keyboard, mouse, and a bunch of hard drives + 2 USB hubs all in the A family.

If I get the new mini. I am not interested in buying new stuff just to accommodate the new USB C ports. What is the best option? USB C to A adapters. Or a USB C hub with A ports.

I don't want to overload the mini either. What are the best options for older A devices?

Pretty sure i picked up a couple of type-C to A adapters for under 10 dollars on Amazon or somewhere. This has been the case for 5+ years at this point.

Time and technology moves on - get some adapters and move on with it - the type C ports are far more capable and pleasant to use, legacy things work just fine with a C-A adapter.
 
...but it's worth checking that you really need the software. I've been using MX Master mice for years and the only software I need is the standlone Unifying Receiver app to pair mice and keyboards with the dongles - and you only need that very occasionally (and only on one machine). I don't know what its like with the new "Bolt" dongles - I actually bought a new-old-stock MX Master 2S last year to avoid those :) All the buttons work apart from the thumb button used for the weird "gesture" feature (which I can live without).

I've used Logitech keyboards without bloatware too in the past - the only problem is with keyboard layouts (particularly British English PC layouts vs. what Apple thinks is a British English layout) but that might be a UK problem. Also, some logitech keyboards have Mac-friendly key labels anyway.

At the moment, though, you can have my ~2010s Apple Aluminium wired keyboard w/ keypad when you prise it from my cold, dead, but surprisingly RSI-free hands:)
Have had the MX Master for years too. But for the keyboard - MX Master Keys For Mac - I believe you have to eat the bloat to get the driver. Might be possible to run without a driver (can`t remember), but the driver comes with bloat, and I don`t believe Logitech cares about stuff like privacy - it wants to call home. Don`t mind cabled keyboards, but I do mind poor keyboard cables ;)
 
Time and technology moves on - get some adapters and move on with it - the type C ports are far more capable and pleasant to use, legacy things work just fine with a C-A adapter.
Yeah, I'm not a great USB-C fan, but it's getting better-established now (and there are cheap A-C dongles that - unlike some early cheap/fake USB-C cables - probably won't let the magic smoke out). Still, I've got a lot of USB-A 2/3 stuff - bought as recently as last year - that would gain no advantage from being connected to a USB-C port so any extra cost is annoying. Even a lot of new, lower-cost USB-C stuff is just USB 3 and will run just as well on a USB-A port.

The real problem has been Mac laptops stripping off HDMI, USB-A, magsafe, etc. which then had to be done via as few as 2 Thunderbolt ports - the problem then wasn't that the ports were USB-C it was that there weren't enough USB-anything for some of us without getting a hub/dock - plus there's never been an all-USB-C/3.2 equivalent of the good old, cheap'n'cheerful 8-10 port USB 3 type A hub (there's now a few 4-port pure USB-C hubs around) and although those work perfectly well via a USB-C host port they don't exactly create an incentive for switching to USB-C cabling...

That hasn't been so bad with Mac desktops which (aside from the M1/M3 iMac) have kept their USB-A and Ethernet ports alongside as many TB ports as the chip supported. Plus, on a desktop, you can plug in a dongle and forget it, unlike a laptop where it's another fiddly gizmo to forget to pick up). The redeeming feature of the M4 Mini is that, cf the M2 Mini, the Ethernet and HDMI ports have been kept, the USB-A ports have been "turned into" front USB-C ports and the base M4 has gained a TB4 port. So, a few C-to-A dongles and it's good to go.

The glass-half-empty-and-now-mounted-underneath-the-table side is that the M4 Pro has lost a Thunderbolt port (and consequently a USB-anything port) c.f. the M2 Pro and that, on both models, the front ports have come at the expense of rear ports so more people will have to trail wires for permanently-connected devices around the front. (C.f. the Studio where the front ports are extra c.f. the Mini). Even the M4 Mini could have had a 4th TB port (either extra or in place of one of the front USB-C/3 ports) since the M4 iMac clearly shows that this is possible with the M4.
 
Yeah, I'm not a great USB-C fan, but it's getting better-established now (and there are cheap A-C dongles that - unlike some early cheap/fake USB-C cables - probably won't let the magic smoke out). Still, I've got a lot of USB-A 2/3 stuff - bought as recently as last year - that would gain no advantage from being connected to a USB-C port so any extra cost is annoying. Even a lot of new, lower-cost USB-C stuff is just USB 3 and will run just as well on a USB-A port.

The real problem has been Mac laptops stripping off HDMI, USB-A, magsafe, etc. which then had to be done via as few as 2 Thunderbolt ports - the problem then wasn't that the ports were USB-C it was that there weren't enough USB-anything for some of us without getting a hub/dock - plus there's never been an all-USB-C/3.2 equivalent of the good old, cheap'n'cheerful 8-10 port USB 3 type A hub (there's now a few 4-port pure USB-C hubs around) and although those work perfectly well via a USB-C host port they don't exactly create an incentive for switching to USB-C cabling...

That hasn't been so bad with Mac desktops which (aside from the M1/M3 iMac) have kept their USB-A and Ethernet ports alongside as many TB ports as the chip supported. Plus, on a desktop, you can plug in a dongle and forget it, unlike a laptop where it's another fiddly gizmo to forget to pick up). The redeeming feature of the M4 Mini is that, cf the M2 Mini, the Ethernet and HDMI ports have been kept, the USB-A ports have been "turned into" front USB-C ports and the base M4 has gained a TB4 port. So, a few C-to-A dongles and it's good to go.

The glass-half-empty-and-now-mounted-underneath-the-table side is that the M4 Pro has lost a Thunderbolt port (and consequently a USB-anything port) c.f. the M2 Pro and that, on both models, the front ports have come at the expense of rear ports so more people will have to trail wires for permanently-connected devices around the front. (C.f. the Studio where the front ports are extra c.f. the Mini). Even the M4 Mini could have had a 4th TB port (either extra or in place of one of the front USB-C/3 ports) since the M4 iMac clearly shows that this is possible with the M4.
I'm ok with USB-C except for monitor connections. When I adjust my monitor height or put it in portrait mode I often lose video sync from the cable movement. Would be much better with some sort of locking connector.
 
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