i just got off the phone with apple and they are sending me iLife '08 for 9.95 even though im not qualified for the up-to-date! the first guy i talked to couldnt even understand what i was saying so he transferred me to another person and after talking to his supervisor he said he would update me for 9.95. i ordered my MBP on july 23 and it was delivered aug 7. if you ordered your mac within the last few weeks and you want ilife 08 i'de def call and talk to them, the worste they can say is no and if they do say no try talking to a supervisor or someone else and maybe you'll have better luck. also try putting your serial number into the up-to-date thing and put your order date as aug 7 even if it wasnt, it might work. anyway im excited! this is my first mac and everything has been pretty much perfect! woo go mac! lol