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NY Bus Crash Kills 13

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What a terrible piece of bad luck, to survive the overturn of the bus only to be sliced by the lighting gantry. :eek:

Thirteen people have been killed and 10 injured in a tour bus accident in New York City, officials say.

The bus overturned on the New England Thruway in the Bronx at about 0530 (1030 GMT) on Saturday, a spokesman for the city's fire department said.

It slid on its side and then hit a light pole which sheared off the top of the bus, the spokesman said.

Six of the injured are said to be in a critical condition. The bus was carrying up to 33 passengers.

The light pole "went through the whole bus from front to rear", a fire department spokesman told the New York Times newspaper.​
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12722996

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Not trying to make light of the situation but, it reminds me of a Final Destination movie scene.
 
Local news reports that survivors say a tractor trailer cut off the bus.
 
skunk said:
I don't suppose that'll be of much comfort to anybody except the driver, who I imagine was the first to die...
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The driver survived and helped some of the injured ... they are still looking for the Truck that clipped the Bus while making a lane change.

Tragic
 
skunk said:
I don't suppose that'll be of much comfort to anybody except the driver, who I imagine was the first to die...
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Maybe not, if he hung on to the wheel and had a seat-belt on.

The passengers dumped onto the right side windows would not have been so lucky.

Seat belts save lives. On all airplanes, why not on busses.
 
iJohnHenry said:
Maybe not, if he hung on to the wheel and had a seat-belt on.

The passengers dumped onto the right side windows would not have been so lucky.

Seat belts save lives. On all airplanes, why not on busses.
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They have them on buses here. And I was thinking RHD...
 
This was a tour bus returning from a Connecticut casino. It did have seat belts, one passenger describes waking up dangling from his.

One more person has died, in hospital.

Police are questioning the truck driver

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The local ABC affiliate is reporting that witnesses saw the bus traveling at very high speed 10 minutes before accident.
 
TheShinyMac said:
Not trying to make light of the situation but, it reminds me of a Final Destination movie scene.
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exactly what my brother said as well. what an a** the truck driver is to take off like that. i haven't read any of the articles so i don't know if they found out who it was but if they haven't found him i hope they do.

***** happens. obviously this is a very tragic situation but the fact that the person at fault for this didn't man up about it only makes matters worse.
 
rdowns said:
The local ABC affiliate is reporting that witnesses saw the bus traveling at very high speed 10 minutes before accident.
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Tour busses in Europe carry a 'speed' computer, which used to be a paper disk, much like a seismometer, with squiggly lines to indicate time and speed.

Police can pull a bus over, and inspect this card for infractions. And it works.

In the age of GPS, I'm surprised that this has not been built into all modern busses.
 
bobfitz14 said:
exactly what my brother said as well. what an a** the truck driver is to take off like that. i haven't read any of the articles so i don't know if they found out who it was but if they haven't found him i hope they do.

***** happens. obviously this is a very tragic situation but the fact that the person at fault for this didn't man up about it only makes matters worse.
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To be fair (not that I am disagreeing with you), the truck driver might not have been fully aware of what happened, since it was happening behind him at freeway speed (60 mph is 88 feet per second, so things behind you recede rather quickly). We do not know how close the vehicles came to each other or whether their was even contact. If he was a (lamentably) inattentive driver, he might not have realized that he was involved. In fact, if, as rdowns said (some witnesses said the bus was speeding) has anything to it, "cut off" might have been due to the truck driver misjudging how fast the bus was going. We can string him up, yes, but only after all the facts are in.
 
Sydde said:
To be fair (not that I am disagreeing with you), the truck driver might not have been fully aware of what happened, since it was happening behind him at freeway speed (60 mph is 88 feet per second, so things behind you recede rather quickly). We do not know how close the vehicles came to each other or whether their was even contact. If he was a (lamentably) inattentive driver, he might not have realized that he was involved. In fact, if, as rdowns said (some witnesses said the bus was speeding) has anything to it, "cut off" might have been due to the truck driver misjudging how fast the bus was going. We can string him up, yes, but only after all the facts are in.
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A speeding vehicle is not an excuse to clip it while changing lanes.

an unsafe lane change is hard to defend ... and not noticing a Large Bus Crashing in your mirrors is also evidence of not paying attention.
 
It used to be that it was not your responsibility to assume the other guy is breaking the law.

But I guess in the Litigious States of America, that concept has been discarded as 'cumbersome'?
 
From reading the article it seems like many people would have been saved had there been seat belts...

Why the **** don't busses have seat belts again? It's the law to have them and wear them in every other type of motor vehicle. Except busses... this would have been totally preventable.
 
zioxide said:
From reading the article it seems like many people would have been saved had there been seat belts...

Why the **** don't busses have seat belts again? It's the law to have them and wear them in every other type of motor vehicle. Except busses... this would have been totally preventable.
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Chung Ninh, 59, told The New York Times and NY1 News that he had been asleep in his seat, then suddenly found himself hanging upside-down from his seat belt, surrounded by the dead and screaming. One man bled from a severed arm.
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...From an article on the crash. It looks like the bus did have seat belts, but I guess not everyone was wearing them.
 
Moyank24 said:
...From an article on the crash. It looks like the bus did have seat belts, but I guess not everyone was wearing them.
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I saw another article where it said a bunch of them were flung to the front of the bus at impact. That's why I assumed there was no belts. Obviously there were, but people didn't wear them. I haven't seen many buses with them, so it must be a new thing. Regardless, it should be the law. That's just senseless loss of life.
 
zioxide said:
I saw another article where it said a bunch of them were flung to the front of the bus at impact. That's why I assumed there was no belts. Obviously there were, but people didn't wear them. I haven't seen many buses with them, so it must be a new thing. Regardless, it should be the law. That's just senseless loss of life.
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Coaches in the U.K. are obliged by law to have them but few people use them,me clunk click every time .
 
Sydde said:
To be fair (not that I am disagreeing with you), the truck driver might not have been fully aware of what happened, since it was happening behind him at freeway speed (60 mph is 88 feet per second, so things behind you recede rather quickly). We do not know how close the vehicles came to each other or whether their was even contact. If he was a (lamentably) inattentive driver, he might not have realized that he was involved. In fact, if, as rdowns said (some witnesses said the bus was speeding) has anything to it, "cut off" might have been due to the truck driver misjudging how fast the bus was going. We can string him up, yes, but only after all the facts are in.
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i agree with pretty much everything you said. i know we need facts before we can judge. i was just making broad assumptions but if the truck driver wasn't the cause then you obviously shouldn't hold him at fault.

Apple OC said:
Apparently evidence is pointing to the bus NOT being clipped by the truck ... and conflicting eyewitness accounts to what the bus driver is saying.

Looking more like the Bus Driver may be at fault ...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/bus_crash_Dbd7avXLwP7H9x6Wf7pGpL
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:rolleyes:
 
Thoughts are with the families and friends of the victims. Sounds like a case of sleepy driver too...
 
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