Other OIS and sensor-shift stabilization

[lkalliance]

I'm trying to sort out the various camera specs, and I'm looking for some education. My current iPhone SE 2020 has Optical Image Stabilization; I assume this is similar to what I'd have on my DSLR's IS lens, a means to mitigate camera shake. The iPhone 12 also had Optical Image Stabilization. Meanwhile, the iPhone 12 Pro (not the Max) has "Dual Optical Image Stabilization".

QUESTION 1: IS THE OIS ON THE IPHONE 12 BETTER THAN THE OIS ON THE IPHONE SE? AND WHAT IS DUAL OIS ON THE 12 PRO? WHY AM I PUTTING TWO QUESTIONS (NOW THREE) UNDER ONE HEADING CALLED "QUESTION 1"?

Now we see that the 13 and 13 Pro have Sensor Shift Stabilization. My understanding is that this technology is what enabled Apple to create room for the bigger sensor. But the 12 and 12 Pro (minus the Max) already had traditional OIS.

QUESTION 2: IS SENSOR SHIFT STABILIZATION ANY BETTER OR WORSE THAN TRADITIONAL OIS?

Finally, this one may not have an answer here, but it seems in the photos that the 13 Pro lens array sticks significantly further out of the back of the camera: both the bump and the lenses themselves.

QUESTION 3: IS THE ADDITIONAL LENGTHS OF THE LENSES (AS OPPOSED TO THE BUMP) SOLELY DUE TO THE TELEPHOTO LENS GOING FROM 2X TO 3X?


This all adds up to a basic question. If I opted to find a 12 Pro instead of buying a 13 Pro, what am I giving up, camera wise? If Sensor Shift stabilization is essentially equal to traditional OIS...then that's a wash. I think 2x on the telephoto might be more versatile than 3x if I wanted to keep it purely optical with no digital zooming involved. And the entire camera array seems less bulky on the 12 (that is certainly not the most important consideration, but it's on the list somewhere).

There are other things that the 13 has that the 12 doesn't, but I'm just trying to isolate these camera trade-offs at the moment.

 

[now i see it]

Sensor shift works better that optical shift. Yes the lenses are protruding farther and farther out as they get bigger with every new iPhone generation.
If you took two pictures side by side with a 12pm and 13pm, you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart if you could at all. The 13pm would win out in low light wide angle though.

 

[FlyingTexan]

Sensor shift works better that optical shift. Yes the lenses are protruding farther and farther out as they get bigger with every new iPhone generation.
If you took two pictures side by side with a 12pm and 13pm, you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart if you could at all. The 13pm would win out in low light wide angle though.

What about the 12mini vs 13mini with OIS? Kind of curious how much of a difference it really makes. Of course rolling around the idea of getting the 13pro just not sure how I’d like being back on the bigger phone.

 

[lkalliance]

What about the 12mini vs 13mini with OIS? Kind of curious how much of a difference it really makes. Of course rolling around the idea of getting the 13pro just not sure how I’d like being back on the bigger phone.

The 13 mini would be a slam-dunk, easy-peasy choice for me...except that when I shoot with my DSLR, I'm shooting with my telephoto like 90% of the time. It would be really nice to have that telephoto lens on my phone, have a cleaner optical zoom, at least at 2x or 3x. Just trying to evaluate the extra benefits of 12 Pro vs. 13 mini vs. 13 Pro. Camera is not the only factor, but a very very important one.

 

[FlyingTexan]

The 13 mini would be a slam-dunk, easy-peasy choice for me...except that when I shoot with my DSLR, I'm shooting with my telephoto like 90% of the time. It would be really nice to have that telephoto lens on my phone, have a cleaner optical zoom, at least at 2x or 3x. Just trying to evaluate the extra benefits of 12 Pro vs. 13 mini vs. 13 Pro. Camera is not the only factor, but a very very important one.

Right but back to my question of the 12m vs 13m lens with OIS. How much of a dif does it really make now days?

 

[lkalliance]

Right but back to my question of the 12m vs 13m lens with OIS. How much of a dif does it really make now days?

But the 12 mini does not lack for OIS. It has it. What is new that it now has "sensor shift stabilization", which is a different technology than the classic OIS that it had before. A poster above suggested that the sensor shift stabilization IS better than standard OIS...but the 12 mini does at least have that.

BUT...the other thing is that the 13 mini does have a bigger sensor than the 12 mini. That's why it now has sensor shift stabilization. That means, I think, it has the same-sized sensor as was in the 12 Pro Max. That would mean the 13 mini should do better in low light than the 12 mini.

If I understand all that correctly.