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Hessel

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just found out they've added a checkbox to activate old exposé or new exposé (mission control)

go to System Preferences --> Mission Control --> uncheck ''Group windows by application''

et voila! got your old exposé back!

(I personally still dig Mission Control more, but it'a great that they've made it an option now)


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Looks more like Leopard's exposé than Snow Leopard's, why?

Maybe because Leopard's was more functional, and many people have the feeling that it was changed to make a nicer looking demo (forced by someone no longer with the company), and not for any practical purposes...

Bringing it back is a huge improvement.
 
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forced by someone no longer with the company

I get this feeling throughout Mountain Lion. I don't know if you meant Bertrand Serlet or Steve Jobs or someone else, but I do get the sense with the company in general that a lot of the changes (especially to OS X) over the last few years were done against the wishes of many of the people working there and that they are gradually rolling some of it back a bit.
 
Funny thing, I tried to use the old exposé instead of Mission Control, and know I can't stand old exposé :eek:

I had to turn it off

Well, Im getting used to MS, but it takes some time :( What I really cant stand is bad support of multiple displays in Lion.
 
I get this feeling throughout Mountain Lion. I don't know if you meant Bertrand Serlet or Steve Jobs or someone else, but I do get the sense with the company in general that a lot of the changes (especially to OS X) over the last few years were done against the wishes of many of the people working there and that they are gradually rolling some of it back a bit.

I meant Steve Jobs.

I am positive there are people within Apple who are not happy with where OS X and Macs are being taken...
 
I get this feeling throughout Mountain Lion. I don't know if you meant Bertrand Serlet or Steve Jobs or someone else, but I do get the sense with the company in general that a lot of the changes (especially to OS X) over the last few years were done against the wishes of many of the people working there and that they are gradually rolling some of it back a bit.

Don't know where you get that feeling from? They aren't rolling anything back either, are they? Just giving people extra choices. (FWIW, I much prefer Mission Control to the old Expose)...
 
thank god, i freakin hate mission control.

and i'm out of the loop here but are they going to do anything about that full screen nonsense in Lion?
 
I see they also insist on still shrinking the desktop. WHAT PURPOSE DOES THIS AT ALL SERVE TO US???!!
 
does it look exactly like Leopard's exposé when you check that box, ie do the windows get different sizes and become bright blue when selected? Is the desktop kept unzoomed unlike Lion? (assuming you have only one virtual desktop)
 
Now they just need to bring the old spaces back. :D

Done:

TotalSpaces

Developer Steven Sykes worked on "ReSpaceApp" and it was such a hit during development the owners of "TotalFinder", BinaryAge, bought it from him. He's still developing it, it's about done, so it's free as a beta and will be $12 once done. I have been using it on Lion and Mountain Lion for months, it's runs perfectly. Steven responds to emails immediately and is extremely hard working and an all around great guy. I give him credit as this app is just about exactly like "Spaces" in 10.5/6.

- Assign apps to desktops in preferences
- Multiple display support
- hot corners/keys
- Transitions
- Menubar icon to display current desktop as before
- Multi-gesture trackpad support

and more
 

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does it look exactly like Leopard's exposé when you check that box, ie do the windows get different sizes and become bright blue when selected? Is the desktop kept unzoomed unlike Lion? (assuming you have only one virtual desktop)

I never noticed it but yes, it is exactly as such. open windows maintain their size ratios (of course smaller) and are highlighted blue when hovered on. However, everything else in "Lion"'s "Mission Control" is the same as "Mountain Lion". The desktop falls back, other desktops remain on top. I don't mind so much, I got used to the GUI "eye candy", even when it serves no other purpose other than consumer "WOW" factor.

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I meant Steve Jobs.

I am positive there are people within Apple who are not happy with where OS X and Macs are being taken...

I can vouch for that fact as I know a few in Cupertino who are frustrated with Apple's R&D focus on iOS and consumer products. A lot of people claim it's what is making Apple the most money, which is what I thought as well. However, the RoI in [whatever is left] their professional departments (Pro-Apps, Mac Pro's, etc) is higher than I believed. Apple simply wants to focus on iOS and the consumer/mobile market. Shame, I loved the PowerMac's and CCFL LCD's that once garnered Apple much praise from professional photographers, designers, etc.
 
Looks more like Leopard's exposé than Snow Leopard's, why?
Because they really haven't changed it that much. All they did in Mission Control was group by application. This setting was fixed, the user couldn't choose. In ML it now is a checkbox so the user can choose whether to group or not. Since this bugged the hell out of most users all will be well when ML comes out :)

I'd have liked some auto-grouping thing: when you have lots and lots of windows it seems more useful to group per app so you can find a certain window more quickly since the windows are at a readable size. If you don't have that many windows (which for most will be the case 99% of the time) it shouldn't do the grouping because else it would be more difficult to quickly find the correct window. This is more like the good old "if there is room, use it!" way of doing things. Makes more sense to me. Since most of us (including me) will have enough windows to not group I'm fine with being able to opt out of the grouping per app though.

does it look exactly like Leopard's exposé when you check that box, ie do the windows get different sizes and become bright blue when selected? Is the desktop kept unzoomed unlike Lion? (assuming you have only one virtual desktop)
No, I believe the grid layout is a bit different. From what I've seen it looks like a combination of Tiger and Leopard's way of doing it. Seems like a good compromise between people who want the Tiger one and people who love the Leopard one (or Lion one).

Anyway, I think this is a good and wise move from Apple.
 
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