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I was out running errands and figured I'd pop into local Sprint and get a peak at PRE. Pulled up expecting to see many people, but there wasn't. I was able to walk in, ask if they had working model, of which they did and no one was using it. There was a customer buying one and when I was done, someone I knew was coming in to purchase. I'm a 16G 3G iPhone user by the way, so wasn't looking to jump ship, but satisfy curiosity.

The first thing I noticed as I placed in my hands was the lightweight / cheap feeling to it. Definitely would want to place that in a case of the Otterbox type, it's going to need solid protection. From there my focus was on the screen; colors were vibrant and screen looked good, however, it's size was a negative. The keyboard keys are really small, but I was able to type with ease and the stickiness to the keys kept slippage from happening as I typed. However, not having a pop up keyboard is a negative.

Moving around the interface was solid and responsive, albeit a tad slow, just enough that I notice it. I really liked being able to have several apps open at once, very nice to go back and forth between them without re-opening. Didn't make a phone call to anyone nor play any audio. Went into it's version of app store and appears you're able to try apps before buying, so I tried NYT, looked very very nice and was fast in rendering various pages. The web browser loaded quickly and pages looked very good also.

The productivity apps; calendar, contacts etc have a very nice look to them and the interaction between is awesome, works as advertised. I wasn't thrilled when viewing the map app, can't quite nail down what it was, but something is lacking there, I typed in pizza and seems I wasn't able to move about the results on the map page easily, could be my non familiarity with the device.

Overall, I'd say it's a nice device for those not with AT&T and want a diverse smartphone. It didn't wow me though. When I put hands on the 1st generation iPhone, it wowed me. My review while in the Sprint store with iPhone on hip was not to compare but have open mind.

I think that timing will affect immediate success of the PRE, tomorrow, as we all know, Apple will grab world attention and stamp out any momentum PRE garners. PRE should have been introduced some months ago, mid stream Apple announcements.

Lastly, if PALM and others want to get on the same or higher playing field than Apple, they should take a page from a company called Hyundai.
 
If companies want to get a leg up on Apple they should stop focusing on "iPhone killers" and focus on "app store killers." Phones like the Storm, Pre, Touch Pro2 etc all have fine hardware. The problem is that none of them have something like the App Store, with tons of great apps.
 
It sucks Palm really cut short of the supposedly hype. There really needs to be another phone that makes the iPhone start running away in order for Apple to work harder on making it the best. Competition is what will help all iPhone users.

Nice review.
 
Nice points.

I can't wait for the Pre to come to Bell in Canada, so I can take a look at it. I've never really been a fan of physical keyboards though, some of my friends have Blackberry Curves, and I find it a mission to type a simple message. I'd love to see how the Pre compares, cause I imagine it as being very unfriendly to me.
 
Random thought, but I find it pretty funny that there Palm Pre adds all over this website.
 
I just walked out a sprint store after playing with one and I agree with the OPs assessment for the most part but disagree on some things

About the cheapness...the device felt pretty solid to me, although there was a slight give/creak due to the slider but overall was very nice and solid to hold and the plastic case felt more or less like the iPhone's

I found the UI sooo much fun to use...so much so that the iPhone's UI now feels ancient/dinosaur to me. The cards interface is brilliant and synergy worked well. The notification system was very elegant and mutitasking worked well

The touch screen was very responsive and the cam took great pics. However that keyboard could definitely be bigger and less sticky but I adjusted fairly quickly and could type decently. Palm should also have added auto correction features and BB style shortcuts (double space=period etc)

Is it better than the iPhone?...overall...no but it is definitely not a bad attempt from Palm and if I'm being honest I would get one...probably still will
 
Lastly, if PALM and others want to get on the same or higher playing field than Apple, they should take a page from a company called Hyundai.

What I'm guessing you're trying to say is that they need to start to offer something really new and something that makes sense. For example, Hyundai offered a thing that if you lost your job, you could return the car. It made people like Ford and GM rethink their strategies for getting customers in this economy.

Like that, other companies should try to raise the bar themselves without taking any notice to what their competitors are doing. Companies should stop thinking in the terms of "iPhone killer" and start thinking in terms of "What makes sense". Then and only then will they kill off the iPhone. (Although I highly doubt we'll see any lower iPhone sales.)
 
IMO it's the first real competitor to the iPhone, and allot of it's problems can be smoothed out in the future.

If I was on sprint I don't think I'd miss the iPhone all that much. to bad it's not sero compatible..
 
What I'm guessing you're trying to say is that they need to start to offer something really new and something that makes sense. For example, Hyundai offered a thing that if you lost your job, you could return the car. It made people like Ford and GM rethink their strategies for getting customers in this economy.

Like that, other companies should try to raise the bar themselves without taking any notice to what their competitors are doing. Companies should stop thinking in the terms of "iPhone killer" and start thinking in terms of "What makes sense". Then and only then will they kill off the iPhone. (Although I highly doubt we'll see any lower iPhone sales.)

Gusapple; you hit the nail on the head. Also, let me add that Palm bringing an Apple guy to remake their device wasn't the answer, new blood with fresh approach needed. When the iPhone hit the market, it wasn't like anything else.
 
I went to a Sprint store as well today just to check it out. And my overall impression is that the device is slow, not buggy but slow.

The idea of cheaper WebOs phone coming out with lower specs shocks me. Pre's version of multi-tasking will not be a part of it, I can guarantee that.
 
Gusapple; you hit the nail on the head. Also, let me add that Palm bringing an Apple guy to remake their device wasn't the answer, new blood with fresh approach needed. When the iPhone hit the market, it wasn't like anything else.

Thats what Sprint thought they could do. When the iPhone came out, all of the major palyers scoffed at Apple and dismissed it. Take a look at Palms response to Apple.


""We've learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone," Ed Colligan apparently laughed about with John Markoff last Thursday morning. "PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in."


So Palm tried to do it themselves and realized that they are incapable of even getting close to what Apple has done. So Palm hired the PC guys who are ex-Apple guys and invited them right in to Palm and create it for them. Foot in the mouth there Palm.
 
I went to a Sprint store as well today just to check it out. And my overall impression is that the device is slow, not buggy but slow.

That's funny because most comparison videos I watch show the phone as being as fast or faster than the current generation iPhone given that the Pre has newer hardware than the iPhone 3G.
 
I Handled one yesterday in the Mall around here. And as posted before was not "wowed". Its a nice phone a little toy-like when holding it. Not switching anytime soon....
 
That's funny because most comparison videos I watch show the phone as being as fast or faster than the current generation iPhone given that the Pre has newer hardware than the iPhone 3G.

Sometimes it is faster, but if you get a few applications going and start swiping through menus and opening new cards it really hits a brick wall it terms of performance.

The iPhone 3G could never do what the Pre does, that's clear. However, I don't think the Pre can do what WebOS wants to do either.
 
i really think it depends on what apps are running and what the pages are displaying and whatnot..
i went to the sprint store yesterday to play with one and it seems to run very smooth. I had at least 8 cards open with pandora and other stuff and it seemed to be just as fast as it was with nothing open...animations were smooth..maybe it was slower..but not noticeable. The iphone comes to a crawl when playing music and doing the web....cant wait for the new hardware.
i was also impressed with the multitouch and touch interface..very responsive. im guessing the faster hardware helps with that as well.
 
I bought one on launch day, and I must say I absolutely love it. It's very impressive. Not without some bugs, but the os is already on its second update, and that leaves me optimistic that more will be coming very soon. It's a great device, though not without its faults, but what do you expect from a rev. A device. I absolutely love it, and am very happy with my purchase. Palm Pre FTW, and also iPhone FTW, they are both excellent devices!
 
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