I installed panther the day it came out, and everything ran awesome. I did a clean install by backing up everything onto DVD first and then overwriting the HD with zeros. The startup time seemed like instantaneous, the system ran smooth. However, some time in january everything changed. The system started taking several minutes to start up (instead of seconds) and there were times that the system resources seemed to be straining. I checked iPulse and found nothing wrong. I checked the process viewer and nothing was hogging resources, there wasnt any background applications using up significant resources. The processor was at the same clock speed, and I ran xBench and it scored slightly HIGHER than when I ran it before. So I cannot figure out what is wrong, other than that panther seems to be running crazy slow. Has anyone else had problems like this? I havnt tried cleaning caches yet (just thought of that), but that shouldnt make that huge of a difference.