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EIGHTYTHREE

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This site can be brutal and at times I think we lose sight of why some people actually visit these sites. Many people come here for help, or some type aid from people with similar type situations. My situation is if there are any parents out there trying to justify this for a Xmas gift for a child 8 under. I will try to be brief.
Price: $329... Price is steep but if you think about those Leapfrog, V-tech, Nintendo DS's devices rang from $59-$199 and up. My 6 year old has a Vtech Reader, she loves it, she loves to go in her room and read and touch certain words and it tells you the definition. She has a room full of regular paper books but she loves to read digitally as well. She got this device when she started reading at 4, but now they are already on the the next thing and Vtech/Leapfrog no longer support the older generation device. So those $9.99-$19.99 games don't work with the newer device. With hardly any resell value. Also note these devices take batteries. ( we had rechargebles but still)

So my point is at first $329 may seem steep but in long run you will have much more longevity out of the product and maximize your dollar in the product. The App store isn't going anywhere. Most of those same reading games and learning games in the app store range from Free to $5.99....not up to $20+ like on those other devices. Also the mini will have resell value...even if it's 2-3 years down the road it will still have value. It will still be capable to connect to the internet, still be able to play games, still be able to do mostly anything a child would be happy with. And you would be able to sell it for a minimum to another parent who has similar ideas with their youth but don't want to pay priemum dollar and you would probably be able to re-sell it no less than $150. Try selling a DS or a Vtech/Leapfrog toy 2-3 years down the road and see what you get. I've done it and it's not that much. On another note for me I have a 3 yr old, so when my daughter turns 9-10 I can hand it down to him and I won't miss a beat. That $329 had went a long way.

I know some of you may think a kid will tear it up, but Otterbox makes a Defender for the mini and it will be just fine. But also luckily I have a really good kid she takes good care of her stuff, that's bout the only good thing she got from me:)

Last but not least, if you think that a child shouldn't have something like this, please try to think about the big picture. FOR ME.. Technology is moving so fast, and even though I didn't have things like this as a kid, it has never crossed my mind to think that my kids shouldn't. I remember my dad saying the say thing when the 1st Nintendo came out. This is my kids future and I feel I must adapt them to techs and computers at an early age otherwise I'm doing them a disservice.We have schools in my area that require elementary kids access to a computer weekly to do school work and some that require parents to purchase a netbook. I know it may seem a lot on the front end but the longevity for a child is worth the $329 and they will use it many years. So buy it and enjoy!

Sorry so long, it seemed much shorter when I was thinking it.:eek: Hope this helps someone on the fence or some lurker to the site who never posts.
 
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I totally got it with the pink smart cover for my DD who just turned 6 last month :D. I don't really care what anyone thinks. Last year she received the LeapPad. We probably put over $200 in it, and it is no where near as good as the iPad mini is. I plan on selling it to recoup some cost. The iPad mini will be DD's but with limitations. She must sit down to use it, and when her time limit is up, it will go in a safe place. I cannot yet trust her to really take care of such an expensive item.
 
I totally got it with the pink smart cover for my DD who just turned 6 last month :D. I don't really care what anyone thinks. Last year she received the LeapPad. We probably put over $200 in it, and it is no where near as good as the iPad mini is. I plan on selling it to recoup some cost. The iPad mini will be DD's but with limitations. She must sit down to use it, and when her time limit is up, it will go in a safe place. I cannot yet trust her to really take care of such an expensive item.

Yea...from bday gifts to xmases we had about $200+ invested in all of ours too. I'm glad you mentioned about recouping some of the price, I meant to say that in my post to help aid anyone to justify the front in price. My daughter has the same sort of restrictions, she also must sit down and we only allow a certain amount of time. With so much useful things in the App store I hope more parents steer towards some type of real 7" tablet than to mess with those Leapfrog, Vtech and Achros crap. Thanks for sharing.

Edit @ fsumom and others..just to share, I got this pink otterbox for her. It's expensive but search for some coupon codes online for a heavy discount! The one I used is no longer valid. http://www.otterbox.com/on/demandwa...t/mProduct-Show?pid=apl2-imin1&dwvar_color=T8
 
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I agree with your thought process...We too bought a leap pad and it just sits in the corner....now granted my son is only 3 so the leap pad has many games that are above his age level.....He does so well with my ipad and a touch we had gotten him that I opted for the mini for him for xmas so he could have his own which will house all his movies and games and free up my devices! I bet in the end I save more money on ancillary things I buy him for learning and such....
 
I have two kids, 8 and 5, and I would never spend over $300 for a gift. I am a bit old school and I do not spoil them.

However, they do earn allowances and earlier this year the older one expressed interest in getting a Kindle Fire. She had already had some allowance saved up and birthday money. We told her that when she was 3 months of allowance away from having enough, we'd give her an advance to get it. She agreed and then of course, the younger one wanted the same deal even though she knew it would take longer for her. To our surprise, they both did it and have been enjoying their Kindle Fires for a few months now.

Then of course, the Mini rumors started flying and once it was confirmed, they both want one. They are waiting until after Christmas to see if they get any money as gifts, save more allowance and then will sell their kindles. We figure if all that should get them to about $200 and we would cover the rest as early birthday gifts.

They both have been very careful with their kindles and we will be sure to get them durable cases/covers.

I do have to agree with EIGHTYTHREE in that when looking at the bigger picture, it is going to be beneficial in the long run. My oldest already has computer homework that can be done on the Mini. Plus they are excited that they can put their music and photos on them as well which aren't on the kindles.

I am excited for them to get their Minis, but at the same time I am trying to make sure they learn that they can't always get what they want right away as well as learning that they have to work for things that they want and make compromises.
 
iPads for children

Sounds like a great idea. iPads are used in the classroom now. Yeah, even elementary schools use them :) Like desktop and laptop computers, they can be a great learning tool.
 
Kids have gotten iPod touches for years...the iPad Mini not that much more.

iPad's, Ipod touches and computers in general are pretty common in education and other places these days. I have a 9th grader and a 5th grader. The 9th grader has been on an 'open technology' campus since middle school. Kids are encouraged to bring their iPod Touches or iPads to school. There is a campus wifi available for them.

The one thing I do chuckle about is how we try to convince ourselves these electronic gadgets are going to make our kids a lot smarter. Other than getting a comfort level with technology at a lot younger age (which most kids do if they have exposure).

Most elementary school kids will spend a lot more time playing Angry birds and playing with fart apps than hard core learning. :)
 
The child will probably really enjoy it. I just need to caution you on one thing. Do not consider resale value here. It could be in less than perfect condition at the end of 2-3 years. Components do sometimes fail as electronics aren't perfect. This is something that should simply be considered for what it is. You should really avoid balancing the purchase on residual value, as it's just an entirely bad idea. Look at it as $329 gone. If it is still acceptable, your kid may really like it.

The other thing I would mention is that it's not necessary to expose kids to tech from a very early age. They'll grow up surrounded by it either way, and casual use is exceptionally easy to pick up. It's just not necessary to worry that they'll have trouble with the concept later if they aren't bombarded with it today.
 
Kids have gotten iPod touches for years...the iPad Mini not that much more.

iPad's, Ipod touches and computers in general are pretty common in education and other places these days. I have a 9th grader and a 5th grader. The 9th grader has been on an 'open technology' campus since middle school. Kids are encouraged to bring their iPod Touches or iPads to school. There is a campus wifi available for them.

The one thing I do chuckle about is how we try to convince ourselves these electronic gadgets are going to make our kids a lot smarter. Other than getting a comfort level with technology at a lot younger age (which most kids do if they have exposure).

Most elementary school kids will spend a lot more time playing Angry birds and playing with fart apps than hard core learning. :)

You are right. Some children, left to their own devices will do exactly that. That's when parents and teachers need to step in to provide guidance. On the positive side some children will, indeed, use technology as a tool to further their education :) Based on my experience (33 years of it).
 
The one thing I do chuckle about is how we try to convince ourselves these electronic gadgets are going to make our kids a lot smarter.

Hah! But I do think if I had had an iPad at a young age, I could have picked up several more languages (I'm bilingual). It's so easy to, for instance, type in a sentence into Google translate and get it back in many languages. I was an odd kid who loved grammar -- I would have spent hours just breaking up languages and comparing how past tense worked in French as opposed to Spanish, and stuff like that. On the other hand, I may have been glued to my iPad and never learned how to interact with real people, lol.

No, the iPad won't have made me any smarter, but it would have given me more to do with my native intelligence, I think.
 
Those LeapPad devices really aren't that good IMO. I set one up for my neighbour's kids last Christmas and it was awful. The software that came with it for downloading apps and everything was really clunky and hard to use. It reminded me of something I would have used on Windows 98. It was nothing like iTunes or any other Mac OSX software I've used.
 
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