Pentium V ?

[Dr. No]

Looks like Intel is replacing its P4 chip next year...

This link from the Inquirer tells some details about Intel's Pentium V Processor, but it looks like it won't be ready for a while.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11785
(It is also mentioned on Tom's)

 

[bennetsaysargh]

The Pentium V could have a front side bus speed of as much as 4000MHz, the source claimed, although this may be reserved for the next chip along, the Nehalem.

i laugh at your 400Mhz FSB!
ha!
oh wait, that's my whole G3 processor

 

[Dr. No]

Doesn't it say 4000? Not 400

 

[Laslo Panaflex]

I'll believe it when I see it, didn't Motorola boast some pretty big claims when it was working on thier "G5"? 4000mhz frontside bus is just insane, that's gonna be one hot (temperature) machine.

 

[beefcake]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
I'll believe it when I see it, didn't Motorola boast some pretty big claims when it was working on thier "G5"? 4000mhz frontside bus is just insane, that's gonna be one hot (temperature) machine.

I find that amusing coming from a company that couldn't even deliver the 7457 G4 after, what, a year and a half of development?

 

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by beefcake
I find that amusing coming from a company that couldn't even deliver the 7457 G4 after, what, a year and a half of development?

Yep, Moto Sucks.

The Pentium V is likely to fly along at between 5GHz to 7GHz, have 2MB plus of level two cache, be built on a 90 nanometer process, and have a stackable design.

The Pentium 4 (Intels own reports) said by the end of the year will not Reach (more then) 3.6 GHZ/

And then we are at 5 GHZ?



Tell me... If a 5 GHZ chip has a 4000 FSB... what is wrong with this data?

 

[notjustjay]

What I want to know is when the Sextium is going to come out.

 

[Backtothemac]

Well, if they can be at 64 bit, with a 4 GHZ FSB, and speeds of 5-7 GHZ on the processor with a 90 nanometer process.

Intel will again push speeds that will kill Apple's.

 

[mac15]

My god that is insane, but the thing is. Intel and M$ like to tell people what they will be doing in 5 years time and Apple doesn't so who knows what will be next for apple. But these specs are true then OMG watch out apple

 

[Fukui]

riiiiiggghhhht....

A 4GHZ FSB?
2MB of L2 Cache??
All on 90nm proccess?
Windows Elements (like photoshop Elements??)
Something like that would end up costing thousands of dollars, like Itanium.

And I bet the P6 will have 128-bit exentions...blablabla....

Those guys need put down the bong already.

 

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by Fukui
Those guys need put down the bong already.

LOL! i think that it was a typo and it is supposed to be 400mhz. ig it were 4Ghz, they wouldnt have but MHz.

 

[wdlove]

I guess that it will be best to just wait and see the timing of the actual Pentium V. Then it see what actual performance it will provide.

 

[howard]

how reputable is the enquirer anyway?

 

[Catfish_Man]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
LOL! i think that it was a typo and it is supposed to be 400mhz. ig it were 4Ghz, they wouldnt have but MHz.

That would be odd, since they're already at 800MHz, getting ready to go to 1000MHz.

 

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Catfish_Man
That would be odd, since they're already at 800MHz, getting ready to go to 1000MHz.

BUT would it make *more* sense to suddendly increase by over 3000MHZ or Quadruple it?

 

[XnavxeMiyyep]

Originally posted by notjustjay
What I want to know is when the Sextium is going to come out.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the secret meaning of the name Pentium.

 

[Macco]

Originally posted by XnavxeMiyyep
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the secret meaning of the name Pentium.

Well I suppose pent=five but was there ever a "Quadrium" or a "Triium"? Or did they exist but those names weren't used at the time? (like how there's no G2 processor)

 

[notjustjay]

No, Intel's PC processor history is much like Motorola's (68000, 68030, etc.)

The original IBM PC processor was called the 8088, then came 8086, 80286, 80386, 80486.

By that time other companies (Cyrix, AMD) were starting to make clone processors and also calling them 386 and 486. Intel could do nothing since numbers are not copyrightable, so they called the 586 the Pentium.

It was at that time that many people joked that the next chip ought to be the Sextium. (Anyone remember the line from "Mission Impossible" about the 686 prototype with artificial intelligence?)

Intel disappointed us by bringing out the Pentium II, then Pentium III, IV, etc.

Oh well.

...actually I think it technically should be the Hextium chip.

 

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by notjustjay
No, Intel's PC processor history is much like Motorola's (68000, 68030, etc.)

The original IBM PC processor was called the 8088, then came 8086, 80286, 80386, 80486.

By that time other companies (Cyrix, AMD) were starting to make clone processors and also calling them 386 and 486. Intel could do nothing since numbers are not copyrightable, so they called the 586 the Pentium.

It was at that time that many people joked that the next chip ought to be the Sextium. (Anyone remember the line from "Mission Impossible" about the 686 prototype with artificial intelligence?)

Intel disappointed us by bringing out the Pentium II, then Pentium III, IV, etc.

Oh well.

...actually I think it technically should be the Hextium chip.

No, sextium seems appropriate.

Your "first time" with the sextium. It wasn't as good as you expected, it didn't perform like you'd like, it burned you in the end, and you found out you caught a virus the next day.

 

[Stike]

Originally posted by wdlove
I guess that it will be best to just wait and see the timing of the actual Pentium V. Then it see what actual performance it will provide.

If the P V is delayed just like it´s fiancee Longhorn, there will be a lot of room for Apple and IBM to grow...

 

[howard]

Originally posted by themadchemist
No, sextium seems appropriate.

Your "first time" with the sextium. It wasn't as good as you expected, it didn't perform like you'd like, it burned you in the end, and you found out you caught a virus the next day.

oh my dear lord,
give this man a medal

 

[Cubeboy]

Hmm, thats interesting, I've always expected Prescott (which is still scheduled to be released 4Q this year) to be named Pentium V given all the new features that are going to be in it.

Judging to the features and clockspeeds (Prescott was expected to scale to 4+ GHz, not anywhere near 7 GHz) the Inquirer seems to be referring to the CPU after Prescott, currently known as Tejas, which, given the timespan could very well have those features.

 

[Cubeboy]

Originally posted by Fukui
riiiiiggghhhht....

A 4GHZ FSB?
2MB of L2 Cache??
All on 90nm proccess?
Windows Elements (like photoshop Elements??)
Something like that would end up costing thousands of dollars, like Itanium.

And I bet the P6 will have 128-bit exentions...blablabla....

Those guys need put down the bong already.

Not really that extravagent given the timespan, Intel's current 130 nm process Pentium 4 Extreme CPUs already have a 2MB on-die L3 cache (along with 512K L2 cache) and are still priced at around $700. Moving to a 90nm process/ decreasing the die size, would invariably decrease the manufacturing cost further.

90nm cpus are not very far off, IBM is already producing 90nm Xilinx FPGAs and Intel is scheduled to produce Prescott in 90nm which itself is scheduled for release 4Q 2003. That Tejas will be manufactured in 90nm (rather than 65 nm) in mid-late 2004 shouldn't come as much of a surprise. I expect to see 90nm PPC970s at this time as well.

We've already confirmed that Prescott has built in 64 bit capabilities from this article so it would be pretty reasonable to assume that Tejas will have it as well.

Oh and Intel IS coming out (or have already come out) with LV Itanium 2s which are priced slightly more than a Pentium 4 so it would be very reasonable to assume that Pentium V would priced along the lines as a Itanium .

 

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by Cubeboy
Not really that extravagent given the timespan, Intel's current 130 nm process Pentium 4 Extreme CPUs already have a 2MB on-die L3 cache (along with 512K L2 cache) and are still priced at around $700. Moving to a 90nm process/ decreasing the die size, would invariably decrease the manufacturing cost further.

90nm cpus are not very far off, IBM is already producing 90nm Xilinx FPGAs and Intel is scheduled to produce Prescott in 90nm which itself is scheduled for release 3Q 2003. That Tejas will be manufactured in 90nm (rather than 65 nm) in mid-late 2004 shouldn't come as much of a surprise. I expect to see 90nm PPC970s at this time as well.

We've already confirmed that Prescott has built in 64 bit capabilities from this article so it would be pretty reasonable to assume that Tejas will have it as well.

Oh and Intel IS coming out (or have already come out) with LV Itanium 2s which are priced slightly more than a Pentium 4 so it would be very reasonable to assume that Pentium V would priced along the lines as a Itanium .

Actually, everything is reasonable except for the bus speed, which is ridiculous. There is no way that Intel will jump from 800 MHz to 4 GHz that quickly.

And if you look at the how they scale their bus...800 MHz bus is used for a 3.06 GHz processor, right?

That's about a 3.75x scale (slightly more). Even if they decide to make the scale 3x, then we're talking 12 GHz processors.

A 4 GHz processor is reasonable next year--not a 4 GHz bus, though. I really doubt we're going to see a 1:1 bus-processor ratio.

 

[bennetsaysargh]

Originally posted by themadchemist
Actually, everything is reasonable except for the bus speed, which is ridiculous. There is no way that Intel will jump from 800 MHz to 4 GHz that quickly.

although i still can't believe the bus speeds of the G5s, that is correct in every single way possible.