Philips Hue to Launch Brighter Bulbs and Expand Filament Range

[MacRumors]

The popular smart lighting brand Philips Hue is planning to launch considerably brighter bulbs and expand its filament range later this year, according to hueblog.com.

Most Philips Hue lights can only reach a maximum brightness of 806 lumens, but the company is planning to launch new standard-size bulbs that offer up to 1,100 lumens of brightness.

Philips Hue is also planning to offer a larger lamp with up to 1,600 lumens in Hue White, Hue White Ambiance, and Hue White and Color Ambiance versions. The larger size of this bulb is necessitated by the need for additional passive cooling measures as the LED produces more heat when emitting more light.

In addition, Philips Hue is seeking to expand its filament range of bulbs by introducing new E27 filament shapes in the White Ambiance range, with a maximum brightness of 550 lumens. There will also be a brand new E14 Hue White filament bulb for the European market, which will become the smallest filament lamp in the range.

According to hueblog.com, the new products will be officially unveiled at the end of August or the beginning of September.

Elsewhere, the company is said to be exploring new Hue products with its Gradient lighting technology. This enables the output of several colors simultaneously and has so far only been available with its Gradient Lightstrip.

Article Link: Philips Hue to Launch Brighter Bulbs and Expand Filament Range

 

[Kylo83]

why only e27, my whole house is b22 ones

 

[H3LL5P4WN]

Crap… that’s ten bulbs I’ll have to replace.

 

[MrFootery]

The relatively high cost of each hue bulb, and the (now ended) need for the additional “bridge” to make them operational, pushed me towards the Nanoleaf Essentials.

The enhanced brightness talked about in the article is appealing, admittedly.

 

[mw360]

Christmas lights please, Hue. There’s still time.

 

[blanks]

Hue bulbs aren't as appealing without Thread (or Matter) support.

 

[josebus]

The relatively high cost of each hue bulb, and the (now ended) need for the additional “bridge” to make them operational, pushed me towards the Nanoleaf Essentials.

The enhanced brightness talked about in the article is appealing, admittedly.

I've made the same argument before, and even though I have hue products already (and obviously the bridge) every time I have purchased a non-hue smart light, I've ended returning them, as I usually had connectivity issues like delayed response, constantly disconnecting and so on.

You do talk about a specific product, the Nanoleaf, so I would understand if from just a single product need/want POV, a non-hue light could have a lot more benefits.

 

[MallardDuck]

now all we need is a bridge that can handle more bulbs

 

[tobefirst ⚽️]

It makes way more sense to me for fixtures like the ones shown in the article (and for most) for the bulbs to be dumb and the switch to be smart. For homeowners at least. I suppose if you rent, you often can't control that and would have to go with smart bulbs.

 

[nutmac]

Hue bulbs aren't as appealing without Thread (or Matter) support.

Hue bridge is getting Matter update via software update.

As for Thread, which would make Hue bridge unnecessary for Apple TV 4K (2nd gen) and HomePod mini users, Hue seems to be sitting it out.

 

[indychris]

LIFX has been at 1100 for several years now, and no bridge required. Frankly, I like the look of the Hue better, but the LIFX works great with my Apple ecosphere already.

Now 1600 lumens would be amazing for large areas!

 

[tennisproha]

Tried hue but ended up returning the whole setup because of it’s absurd price and lack of high CRI and broad spectrum. They have good connectivity but the light optics are terrible.

 

[iansilv]

I wish they would just add color rotation between a set of bulbs as a default scene in the app. Let me pick up to five colors, the order, and the time to rotate between a full cycle. It just looks so cool through hue labs but it is cumbersome to setup...

 

[blanks]

I've made the same argument before, and even though I have hue products already (and obviously the bridge) every time I have purchased a non-hue smart light, I've ended returning them, as I usually had connectivity issues like delayed response, constantly disconnecting and so on.

You do talk about a specific product, the Nanoleaf, so I would understand if from just a single product need/want POV, a non-hue light could have a lot more benefits.

Interesting… I have Hue, LIFX, and Nanoloaf bulbs (with one LIFX bulb outside the home), and I haven't had any real connectivity issues with any of them. Might be a WiFi signal issue?

 

[rictus007]

It would be good to know if they will consume more energy. …. And the cost, I will be happy to replace 10-13 bulbs if they are around the same $

 

[thejadedmonkey]

I might need to get a few of these brighter bulbs. Especially if they can fit into my fan housing.

They're not brighter. The old A19 style bulbs put out 840 lumen. The filament ones are 530. They might look prettier, but they're not better.

 

[alexandr]

LIFX has been at 1100 for several years now, and no bridge required. Frankly, I like the look of the Hue better, but the LIFX works great with my Apple ecosphere already.

Now 1600 lumens would be amazing for large areas!

you know they've been out for some time now — https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BNM55K...colid=1GW41DJMMQSC&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

 

[Saturnine]

I got on the Hue train pretty early (around 2012) and I’ve had a day’s problem with them. Even those original bulbs still work well.

Cheaper, similar alternatives such as Ikea’s Tradfi are all over the market now but I’m extremely reluctant to replace something that’s worked so well.

I’m moving house this month so I can see a few more bulbs and lights being purchased.

My sole wish is that Philips/Signify would release some kind of product that could replace UK-standard lighting faceplates and allow smart lights or dumb lights to be controlled directly.

 

[alexandr]

have been a hue fan for ages now. i'm super glad to see that they are making their bulbs brighter, as they are dim af. i've actually been doubling them up using this:

DiCUNO 2 in 1 E26 Socket Splitter Adapter, 2 E26 Standard Medium Base Bulbs in 1 Socket, Y-Shape Lamp Holder Converter, Maximum 200W and 165℃ Heat Resistant Light Bulb Splitter, 2-Pack

2 packs of DiCUNO 2 in 1 E26 socket splitters are safe and easy to install, enabling 2 bulbs installed in one single socket, providing brighter vision and lightening up your home.

www.amazon.com

that's the only way i could light my way

 

[alexandr]

I got on the Hue train pretty early (around 2012) and I’ve had a day’s problem with them. Even those original bulbs still work well.

Cheaper, similar alternatives such as Ikea’s Tradfi are all over the market now but I’m extremely reluctant to replace something that’s worked so well.

I’m moving house this month so I can see a few more bulbs and lights being purchased.

My sole wish is that Philips/Signify would release some kind of product that could replace UK-standard lighting faceplates and allow smart lights or dumb lights to be controlled directly.

just out of curiosity — did you happen to find some kind of a "transport" case for bulbs? when i was moving i ran into this issue and wasn't able to find anything...

 

[NorCalZman]

I used LIFX for a few years but they eventually started to become unreliable with HomeKit commands and one even had its case crack (not a rare occurance according to my internet search)! My neighbor uses hue bulbs without HomeKit and says his have become annoyingly unreliable too. He does all sorts of conditional programming with them and his smart home so he is very tech savvy. He is going to switch away from Hue as a result.

I recently got the nanoleafs with Thread support and I will say now: I will not buy any smart home devices without Thread going forward. The response time is instant and reliable with HomeKit, way better than LIFX bulbs were even when they were working great. The LIFX bulbs had a very slight advantage in light/color quality but it is not worth the extra $30 PER BULB (nanoleaf are 20) and the less reliable Wi-Fi connections.

Thread is the future.

 

[Btaylor_prod]

It’s about time they came out with brighter bulbs.

Now if they would just lower the price and make there bulbs flicker free [for filming] that would be great.

 

[CarpalMac]

Hue Bridge Capability Expansion.

That is the only headline about them I want to see.

I am running three bridges, it is an absolute PITA. Yes there are workarounds, I am already having to do many just for these.

All this other stuff is just noise to me, until they sort that out. And perhaps their still poorly designed app, though that is far less important to me as I use home assistants.

 

[josebus]

Interesting… I have Hue, LIFX, and Nanoloaf bulbs (with one LIFX bulb outside the home), and I haven't had any real connectivity issues with any of them. Might be a WiFi signal issue?

I have never tried those two, I've tried the other bulbs that use Zigbee I believe and I had issues.

Wifi issues are always a factor, so who knows.

 

[BrentD]

you know they've been out for some time now — https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BNM55K...colid=1GW41DJMMQSC&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Those are just white bulbs without color or even color temp control. These new ones they're teasing are full color bulbs.

I tried the actual bulb you linked, but the lack of color temp tuning made me return them. They were super bright (almost too bright, honestly), but the color temp they use wasn't one my wife could stand.